From his 2002 book:
"I didn't decide to run for president to start a national crusade for the political reforms I believed in or to run a campaign as if it were some grand act of patriotism. In truth, I wanted to be president because it had become my ambition to be president. . . . In truth, I'd had the ambition for a long time."
Full Version: John McCain Only Wants To Be President.
He does have some class though.
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Later in Minnesota, a woman told McCain: "I don't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's an Arab."
McCain shook his head and said, "No ma'am, no ma'am. He's a decent family man...[a] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. That's what this campaign is all about."
The audience then applauded McCain.
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Later in Minnesota, a woman told McCain: "I don't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's an Arab."
McCain shook his head and said, "No ma'am, no ma'am. He's a decent family man...[a] citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. That's what this campaign is all about."
The audience then applauded McCain.
QUOTE (UConn James @ Oct 11 2008, 08:32 AM) 
Saw a clip on the news last night where JM was responding to someone... Said that although he thinks he'd make a better president than Obama --- that's why he's running after all --- Obama "is a decent person and a person we shouldn't be scared of as President of the United States" (it just ran again) and we won't be doomed should he win. Said they have differences in policy, that's it.
The crowd started booing and there were shouts of "No!"
Imagine the gall of JM, saying such a thing! Republicans want to hear that Obama drinks babies' blood and laughs it up with bin Laden. Thing is, maybe if JM really believes this, he should send a memo to Palin to temper her rhetoric. Honestly, I believe JM has found out that the negative / ad hoc stuff on Obama isn't working and he needs to change tack slightly. I wouldn't doubt that their internal polling is saying that the independents he needs to win have been turned off in droves by this stuff.
McCain has really gone into a shell over the course of this campaign. The Straight Talk Express where reporters could talk to him about anything and everything was ended. Kaput. He's made some admissions and stances that have all but lost him specific states (Iowa and Michigan) and have people worried about him in the current climate (that the economy isn't his strong suit). I don't know if it's possible at this point. This country elects Democrats when they want to be mothered and elects Republicans when they want a father. America is running straight for mama's arms.
The crowd started booing and there were shouts of "No!"
Imagine the gall of JM, saying such a thing! Republicans want to hear that Obama drinks babies' blood and laughs it up with bin Laden. Thing is, maybe if JM really believes this, he should send a memo to Palin to temper her rhetoric. Honestly, I believe JM has found out that the negative / ad hoc stuff on Obama isn't working and he needs to change tack slightly. I wouldn't doubt that their internal polling is saying that the independents he needs to win have been turned off in droves by this stuff.
McCain has really gone into a shell over the course of this campaign. The Straight Talk Express where reporters could talk to him about anything and everything was ended. Kaput. He's made some admissions and stances that have all but lost him specific states (Iowa and Michigan) and have people worried about him in the current climate (that the economy isn't his strong suit). I don't know if it's possible at this point. This country elects Democrats when they want to be mothered and elects Republicans when they want a father. America is running straight for mama's arms.
McCain is saying that because the campaign is getting attacked from all sides about the negativity.
QUOTE (pBills @ Oct 11 2008, 08:50 AM)
McCain is saying that because the campaign is getting attacked from all sides about the negativity.
It gets attacked from all sides no matter what he is doing.
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
QUOTE (UConn James @ Oct 11 2008, 08:32 AM)
I believe JM has found out that the negative / ad hoc stuff on Obama isn't working and he needs to change tack slightly. I wouldn't doubt that their internal polling is saying that the independents he needs to win have been turned off in droves by this stuff.
He (or his handlers) have come up with a new spin...sort of like chocolate meets peanut butter.
QUOTE (finknottle @ Oct 11 2008, 08:54 AM)
It gets attacked from all sides no matter what he is doing.
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
Never heard that one. I'll have to look into that one.
QUOTE (finknottle @ Oct 11 2008, 08:54 AM)
It gets attacked from all sides no matter what he is doing.
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
Link?
QUOTE (finknottle @ Oct 11 2008, 08:54 AM)
It gets attacked from all sides no matter what he is doing.
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
QUOTE (Lurker @ Oct 11 2008, 09:11 AM)
Link?
Beat me to it. I'd like to see a link too.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 11 2008, 11:31 AM)
Beat me to it. I'd like to see a link too.
Can't find anything about that but I did find this from Michael Reagan:
Although I agree with Cincinnati talk-show host Bill Cunningham on many issues, I have to side with Sen. John McCain in denouncing Cunningham for his behavior while appearing at a McCain rally on the candidate's behalf.
During his introductory remarks to the audience Cunningham repeatedly referred to Sen. Barack Obama as a "hack" and as Barrack Hussein Obama with the emphasis on Hussein, Obama's middle name -- a tactic used by critics who insist that Obama is really a Muslim.
McCain, who was not in the hall when Cunningham spoke, reacted angrily, telling reporters, "I take responsibility and I repudiate what he said. A person came out here before I arrived and made some disparaging remarks about Senators Obama and Clinton and I regret that. In my entire campaign I have treated Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton with respect. I will continue to do that throughout this campaign."
For his part, Cunningham acted like a spoiled child being punished by his parents, threatening to vote for ultra-liberal Hillary Clinton in response to McCain's scolding.
QUOTE (finknottle @ Oct 11 2008, 08:54 AM)
It gets attacked from all sides no matter what he is doing.
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
How's the media reacting to the Obama negativity, btw? Haven't heard much lately about Obama discouraging all the 'he'd a dottering old man, about to die any day' stuff being said by his warmup speakers...
McCain and his campaign have painted themselves into a nasty corner. His campaign's choice to go negative a while back has drummed up crowds, potentially going out of control if McCain didn't try to tamp it down a bit. Obama had to respond in some way, there was no choice or he'd become Kerry redux.
Obama would NEVER have issued any negative ads or verbal attacks if he hadn't been provoked. Only normal political jabs, like a third term of Bush, he was wrong about Iraq, etc. The media doesn't like Obama's negativity either, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand he was baited into responding in kind.
Now that the negative campaigning has hurt him and the crowds are all fired up, McCain is taking a lot of heat and he has to at least show that he doesn't condone the lies and taunts that his campaign has fueled.
If he stops the negative ads and speeches, he'll lose based on the economy. If he defends Obama and tries to shutdown the attacks, he's viewed as weak and loses.
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Former Bush adviser Karl Rove said Sunday that Sen. John McCain had gone "one step too far" in some of his recent ads attacking Sen. Barack Obama.
Karl Rove said both candidates are guilty of going too far in their attacks.
Rove has leveled similar criticism against Obama.
"McCain has gone in some of his ads -- similarly gone one step too far," he told Fox News, "and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the '100 percent truth' test."
Even Rove thinks McCain has gone too far. While he says the same thing about Obama you'd expect that from him but nobody expected an attack on McCain. If Rove thinks you've gone too far as a Republican it's mind blowing.
Former Bush adviser Karl Rove said Sunday that Sen. John McCain had gone "one step too far" in some of his recent ads attacking Sen. Barack Obama.
Karl Rove said both candidates are guilty of going too far in their attacks.
Rove has leveled similar criticism against Obama.
"McCain has gone in some of his ads -- similarly gone one step too far," he told Fox News, "and sort of attributing to Obama things that are, you know, beyond the '100 percent truth' test."
Even Rove thinks McCain has gone too far. While he says the same thing about Obama you'd expect that from him but nobody expected an attack on McCain. If Rove thinks you've gone too far as a Republican it's mind blowing.
McCain is a man of ambition, but admits it. Obama is a man of ambition without service but doesn't admit it.
Who's more at fault? Who can honestly say a man without any experience in federal work should be president? His 1st term as a senator doesn't count as Obama himself said because he would be immediately campaigning without working his job.
A man who admits he's power-hungry, or the guy who lied about his first campaign to campaign for a higher office. (Remember his promises in Illinois he wasn't running for Presidency?)
Who's more at fault? Who can honestly say a man without any experience in federal work should be president? His 1st term as a senator doesn't count as Obama himself said because he would be immediately campaigning without working his job.
A man who admits he's power-hungry, or the guy who lied about his first campaign to campaign for a higher office. (Remember his promises in Illinois he wasn't running for Presidency?)
QUOTE (StupidNation @ Oct 11 2008, 01:08 PM)
McCain is a man of ambition, but admits it. Obama is a man of ambition without service but doesn't admit it.
Who's more at fault? Who can honestly say a man without any experience in federal work should be president? His 1st term as a senator doesn't count as Obama himself said because he would be immediately campaigning without working his job.
A man who admits he's power-hungry, or the guy who lied about his first campaign to campaign for a higher office. (Remember his promises in Illinois he wasn't running for Presidency?)
Who's more at fault? Who can honestly say a man without any experience in federal work should be president? His 1st term as a senator doesn't count as Obama himself said because he would be immediately campaigning without working his job.
A man who admits he's power-hungry, or the guy who lied about his first campaign to campaign for a higher office. (Remember his promises in Illinois he wasn't running for Presidency?)
What McCain said was just plain stupid. It's implicit in any politician who runs for the Presidency that he or she is outrageously full of ego and ambition. It's impossible not to be and everyone knows it. It's also very possible to be full of yourself, full of ego, and ambition, and yet simultaneously want to serve your country and its citizens. McCain basically said he didn't really care about anything else but himself and his ego. It was a dumb thing to say, and even more stupid if true. Obama, or Romney or Huckabee or Hillary isn't dishonest by NOT saying they have a huge ego and ambition. It's obvious and inherent to the position of being a candidate for the job.
QUOTE (Kelly the Fair and Balanced Dog @ Oct 11 2008, 03:19 PM)
What McCain said was just plain stupid. It's implicit in any politician who run for the Presidency that he or she is outrageously full of ego and ambition. It's impossible not to be and everyone knows it. It's also very possible to be full of yourself, full of ego, and ambition, and yet simultaneously want to serve your country and its citizens. McCain basically said he didn't really care about anything else but himself and his ego. It was a dumb thing to say, and even more stupid if true. Obama, or Romney or Huckabee or Hillary isn't dishonest by NOT saying they have a huge ego and ambition. It's obvious and inherent to the position of being a candidate for the job.
While I agere with some of what you are saying, there is not one Presidential Candidate who puts their country ahead of their own ambition. Not one.
It seems like the normal progression goes from complete, selfish ambition to both personal ambition and looking out for the country when they actually get into office.
QUOTE (BlueFire @ Oct 11 2008, 01:24 PM)
While I agere with some of what you are saying, there is not one Presidential Candidate who puts their country ahead of their own ambition. Not one.
It seems like the normal progression goes from complete, selfish ambition to both personal ambition and looking out for the country when they actually get into office.
It seems like the normal progression goes from complete, selfish ambition to both personal ambition and looking out for the country when they actually get into office.
I pretty much agree with that. I just happen to think that there isn't a progression of things, like from complete selfish ambition to personal ambition plus looking out for the country. I think those things can happen all at the same time. I also think that these twisted egomaniacs, including Obama and McCain, actually believe that they are good for the country, or much better than their opponents and contemporaries, so part of their huge ambition is this (insane) belief they actually are the right and best man or woman for the job and country. Not much different than the ego of a professional athlete who thinks they are the best.
Obama is a fraud.
QUOTE (BlueFire @ Oct 11 2008, 04:24 PM)
While I agere with some of what you are saying, there is not one Presidential Candidate who puts their country ahead of their own ambition. Not one.
It seems like the normal progression goes from complete, selfish ambition to both personal ambition and looking out for the country when they actually get into office.
It seems like the normal progression goes from complete, selfish ambition to both personal ambition and looking out for the country when they actually get into office.
Looking back, I think Ronald Reagan was a man driven by country/duty and not just a desire to be president.
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 11 2008, 05:54 PM)
Looking back, I think Ronald Reagan was a man driven by country/duty and not just a desire to be president.
Ya. Being a B actor would do that to people.
You don't think he viewed the POTUS as the "utilmate part." Fame on the main stage at its finest?
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 11 2008, 06:58 PM)
Ya. Being a community activist would do that to people.
Fixed
You're such an idiot.
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 11 2008, 06:54 PM)
Looking back, I think Ronald Reagan was a man driven by country/duty and not just a desire to be president.
One of the few things we can both agree on these days, SDS. He was a heck of a POTUS, in my opinion.
QUOTE (Lurker @ Oct 11 2008, 07:18 PM)
One of the few things we can both agree on these days, SDS. He was a heck of a POTUS, in my opinion.
Did you vote for him or were you two?
QUOTE (erynthered @ Oct 11 2008, 06:11 PM)
Fixed
You're such an idiot.
You're such an idiot.
You really believe that.
Why the name calling? You seem like a nice guy, it is really unbecoming of you. Maybe you talk like this when you are helping the little ones out in the neighborhood.
Peace dude.
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 11 2008, 08:00 PM)
You really believe that.
Why the name calling? You seem like a nice guy, it is really unbecoming of you. Maybe you talk like this when you are helping the little ones out in the neighborhood.
Peace dude.
Why the name calling? You seem like a nice guy, it is really unbecoming of you. Maybe you talk like this when you are helping the little ones out in the neighborhood.
Peace dude.
No. I am like this. I cant stand ignorance. Neither can my children. They're both in Gifted classes. I'm teaching them to be leaders, not followers. You seem to think, as you've said in recent posts that following is OK, or its OK to follow. Bullshiit. My children will be leaders in this Country. Not Pacifest socialist tree hugging bleeding heart liberal wankers.
You folks are really charming.
QUOTE (erynthered @ Oct 11 2008, 07:12 PM)
No. I am like this. I cant stand ignorance. Neither can my children. They're both in Gifted classes. I'm teaching them to be leaders, not followers. You seem to think, as you've said in recent posts that following is OK, or its OK to follow. Bullshiit. My children will be leaders in this Country. Not Pacifest socialist tree hugging bleeding heart liberal wankers.
You folks are really charming.
You folks are really charming.
QUOTE (erynthered @ Oct 11 2008, 08:12 PM)
No. I am like this. I cant stand ignorance. Neither can my children. They're both in Gifted classes. I'm teaching them to be leaders, not followers. You seem to think, as you've said in recent posts that following is OK, or its OK to follow. Bullshiit. My children will be leaders in this Country. Not Pacifest socialist tree hugging bleeding heart liberal wankers.
You folks are really charming.
You folks are really charming.
Have your children inherited your "nerdy internet addict" gene? How can you teach them not to become "socialists" when you have clue what it means?
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 11 2008, 07:15 PM)
Have your children inherited your "nerdy internet addict" gene?
I got to admit, this bleeding heart lib feels sorry for his little kidlets!
"They're both in Gifted classes."
LAMP... Look at me! Look at me.
I am telling you this country is going to hell in a handbasket. You wonder how the bravado rubs off... This is exhibit A.
Humility is a virtue... Eryn hasn't received that memo.
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 11 2008, 08:20 PM)
I got to admit, this bleeding heart lib feels sorry for his little kidlets!
"They're both in Gifted classes."
LAMP... Look at me! Look at me.
I am telling you this country is going to hell in a handbasket. You wonder how the bravado rubs off... This is exhibit A.
Humility is a virtue... Eryn hasn't received that memo.
"They're both in Gifted classes."
LAMP... Look at me! Look at me.
I am telling you this country is going to hell in a handbasket. You wonder how the bravado rubs off... This is exhibit A.
Humility is a virtue... Eryn hasn't received that memo.
I feel sorry for you kids.........
QUOTE (erynthered @ Oct 11 2008, 07:38 PM)
I feel sorry for you kids.........
I do too... I really wish I can put them gifted classes...
Then again, their old man is not your caliber... Can I send them to Uncle Eryn?My best Biden: God love you Erin... But you are dead wrong. You are such a trip.
QUOTE (erynthered @ Oct 11 2008, 05:12 PM)
No. I am like this. I cant stand ignorance. Neither can my children. They're both in Gifted classes. I'm teaching them to be leaders, not followers. You seem to think, as you've said in recent posts that following is OK, or its OK to follow. Bullshiit. My children will be leaders in this Country. Not Pacifest socialist tree hugging bleeding heart liberal wankers.
You folks are really charming.
You folks are really charming.
oh dear lord, it REPRODUCED?! Now that's scary. In a nauseating way.
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 11 2008, 06:54 PM)
Looking back, I think Ronald Reagan was a man driven by country/duty and not just a desire to be president.
I would agree with that. I disagreed with his policy's as most American's did but I do think he was genuine.
QUOTE (erynthered @ Oct 11 2008, 08:12 PM)
No. I am like this. I cant stand ignorance. Neither can my children. They're both in Gifted classes. I'm teaching them to be leaders, not followers. You seem to think, as you've said in recent posts that following is OK, or its OK to follow. Bullshiit. My children will be leaders in this Country. Not Pacifest socialist tree hugging bleeding heart liberal wankers.
You folks are really charming.
You folks are really charming.
Ummm, I think your kids need a finishing school so they don't end up with poor manners.
Them kids is most likely imaginary.
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Obama would NEVER have issued any negative ads or verbal attacks if he hadn't been provoked.
LOL...Yea right...oh wait..I forgot..He is the Messiah....What a crock.
QUOTE (swede316 @ Oct 12 2008, 04:55 AM)
LOL...Yea right...oh wait..I forgot..He is the Messiah....What a crock.
He didn't want to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceHhRdaO_Gs
Hillary broke in his negative ad virginity, so it just carried over to McCain. I kind of think that if Obama was not able to escape this campaign without negative ads, even though he clearly is the far far superior candidate.. it might not be possible.
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Hillary broke in his negative ad virginity, so it just carried over to McCain. I kind of think that if Obama was not able to escape this campaign without negative ads, even though he clearly is the far far superior candidate.. it might not be possible.
Keep drinking the Kool Aid my friend...Obama is not squeaky clean. This is the guy who used any means necessary to remove his rival off of the ballot in his first campaign. He's been associated with Bill Ayers and Rev Wright, etc...If you think he's a great guy you're wrong...He's an ordinary politician who speaks well and a Harvard trained lawyer just like Spitzer was. Don't put all of your faith in him. Be careful what you wish for..You just might get it.
QUOTE (swede316 @ Oct 12 2008, 06:25 AM)
Keep drinking the Kool Aid my friend...Obama is not squeaky clean. This is the guy who used any means necessary to remove his rival off of the ballot in his first campaign. He's been associated with Bill Ayers and Rev Wright, etc...If you think he's a great guy you're wrong...He's an ordinary politician who speaks well and a Harvard trained lawyer just like Spitzer was. Don't put all of your faith in him. Be careful what you wish for..You just might get it.
Who said he was perfect? I said he was a far far superior to his singular opponent. Are you dumb enough that you need me to pull out John McCains list of hypocrisies and shady "Ayers/Wright" type associations, or can we agree that he has a large list of them, and go from there?
P.S. WTF is with the Spitzer association? A bit off the wall, don't you think? John McCain has the same first name as John Edwards.. he must cheat on his wife also.
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Who said he was perfect? I said he was a far far superior to his singular opponent. Are you dumb enough that you need me to pull out John McCains list of hypocrisies and shady "Ayers/Wright" type associations, or can we agree that he has a large list of them, and go from there?
P.S. WTF is with the Spitzer association? A bit off the wall, don't you think? John McCain has the same first name as John Edwards.. he must cheat on his wife also.
I don't buy he is far far superior....What has he done? Not much in comparison. I am dumb..Pull em out and we'll compare idiots. P.S. WTF is with the Spitzer association? A bit off the wall, don't you think? John McCain has the same first name as John Edwards.. he must cheat on his wife also.
Everyone loves to point out Harvard for Obama...Just saying they don't produce superhero's all the time.
QUOTE (blzrul @ Oct 11 2008, 10:54 PM)
oh dear lord, it REPRODUCED?! Now that's scary. In a nauseating way.
Since you said that..
Mine lived..
Not to cool is it, Deb. Grow up bitch.
QUOTE (erynthered @ Oct 12 2008, 02:44 PM)
Since you said that..
Mine lived..
Not to cool is it, Deb. Grow up bitch.
Mine lived..
Not to cool is it, Deb. Grow up bitch.
You just can't stop the name-calling with actual posters on the board, no matter how hard you try...
I not saying everyone is perfect... But, man you are a study... Couple that with calling her by her first name...
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 12 2008, 03:08 PM)
You just can't stop the name-calling with actual posters on the board, no matter how hard you try...
I not saying everyone is perfect... But, man you are a study... Couple that with calling her by her first name...
Why are first names a problem, Eric?
QUOTE (Alaska Darin @ Oct 12 2008, 06:10 PM)
Why are first names a problem, Eric?
I have no problem with it. And yes, my name is Eric... EIL kinda works both ways!
If you read my post correctly... It is the correlation between first calling her Deb and then bitch. The guy has to be a trip in person. It is like he got to age nine and never progressed into maturity.
I disagree agree with you and others... We still can be civil.
QUOTE (conner @ Oct 12 2008, 06:37 AM)
P.S. WTF is with the Spitzer association? A bit off the wall, don't you think? John McCain has the same first name as John Edwards.. he must cheat on his wife also.
Already a fact at least with the first wife
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 12 2008, 02:13 PM)
I have no problem with it. And yes, my name is Eric... EIL kinda works both ways!
If you read my post correctly... It is the correlation between first calling her Deb and then bitch. The guy has to be a trip in person. It is like he got to age nine and never progressed into maturity.
I disagree agree with you and others... We still can be civil.
If you read my post correctly... It is the correlation between first calling her Deb and then bitch. The guy has to be a trip in person. It is like he got to age nine and never progressed into maturity.
I disagree agree with you and others... We still can be civil.
Deb gets pretty much what she deserves.
QUOTE (Alaska Darin @ Oct 12 2008, 06:49 PM)
Deb gets pretty much what she deserves.
And she handles it very well!
It just a freaking Bills board... Nobody gets what they deserve... Well maybe Rich in Ohio got what he deserved...
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 12 2008, 02:57 PM)
And she handles it very well!
Puff. Puff. Give.
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