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ExiledInIllinois
Palin Cover of Newsweek: Closeup

In a couple of days they come and
Take me away
But the press let the story leak
And when the radical priest
Come to get me released
We was all on the cover of Newsweek


Al Bundy's new glasses, thoughts on 40

Steely Dan
How stupid have things gotten?
ExiledInIllinois
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 8 2008, 08:26 PM) *
How stupid have things gotten?



Exactly... Don't know why I thought of the Married with Children thing, but I did... wallbash.gif wallbash.gif I just wish they had the full clip after where the one I posted finishes... Where he stomps on his glasses and chooses go on living in a blur.

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Simon
QUOTE
claiming that Newsweek has a left-wing slant that supports Obama.


I was reading some of that issue today and definitely sensed a left-wing bias. I think what really tipped the scales was where they gave Karl Rove his own section for a full article. That damned liberal media. laugh.gif
SD Jarhead
Anyone who reads either Newsweek or Time and doesn't know their in the tank for The Messiah is retarded or can't read.

I just arrived home after a seven week trip and the hotel I was staying at left Newsweek out for the guests. Like MSNBC they remove all pretense of objectivity. Really, they don't even hide it.

As far as the picture is concerned, who cares...
ExiledInIllinois
QUOTE (SD Jarhead @ Oct 8 2008, 08:50 PM) *
As far as the picture is concerned, who cares...


Obviously Palin does.
conner
It does really appear like they were trying to make her look bad and ugly.

Oh well, if she wasn't a complete dunce who deserves everything she's getting... than maybe I'd feel bad.
ExiledInIllinois
QUOTE (conner @ Oct 8 2008, 09:39 PM) *
It did really appear like they were trying to make her look bad and ugly.

Oh well, if she wasn't a complete dunce who deserves everything she's getting... I'd feel bad.


The Palins Psycho Dad Psycho Mom
SDS
QUOTE (conner @ Oct 8 2008, 10:39 PM) *
It does really appear like they were trying to make her look bad and ugly.

Oh well, if she wasn't a complete dunce who deserves everything she's getting... than maybe I'd feel bad.


why does she deserve it? because she was asked to be VP? She was asked to help serve her party/country and she said yes. Because of this she "deserves everything she's getting"??? dry.gif

What a bunch of crap.

She didn't seek out anything. She didn't lobby for the job. She was happy being Governor of Alaska. She downplayed every attempt of people linking her to the VP position.

Obama, Biden, and McCain are the ones who made the concerted effort this cycle for national office. They are the ones who asked for, and thus deserve the anal exam. The only thing you can hold against her is that she said "yes" when asked to help. For that she has received far more scrutiny, far more slander, far more mud-slinging, far more personal intrusion than the person actually running to be president. If that isn't back-asswards I don't know what is.

As for being a complete dunce, perhaps you could post your resume and we'll compare your accomplishments to hers... rolleyes.gif
elegantelliotoffen
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 8 2008, 11:04 PM) *
For that she has received far more scrutiny, far more slander, far more mud-slinging, far more personal intrusion than the person actually running to be president. If that isn't back-asswards I don't know what is.


John McCain, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden have all been national figures for years whose records had already been vetted by the national media. Why shouldn't the media scrutinize Palin who up until late August was unknown to the vast majority of Americans?
DC Tom
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 8 2008, 11:11 PM) *
John McCain, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden have all been national figures for years whose records had already been vetted by the national media. Why shouldn't the media scrutinize Palin who up until late August was unknown to the vast majority of Americans?


And with an extreme close-up on the cover of Newsweek, she's certainly getting that scrutiny.


Really...no one cares what's in between the covers? We're concerned with the surface image? This whole "controversy" is American politics in a microcosm. wallbash.gif
Steely Dan
QUOTE (SD Jarhead @ Oct 8 2008, 09:50 PM) *
Anyone who reads either Newsweek or Time and doesn't know their in the tank for The Messiah is retarded or can't read.

I just arrived home after a seven week trip and the hotel I was staying at left Newsweek out for the guests. Like MSNBC they remove all pretense of objectivity. Really, they don't even hide it.

As far as the picture is concerned, who cares...


What publication do you think is moderate?


QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 8 2008, 11:04 PM) *
why does she deserve it? because she was asked to be VP? She was asked to help serve her party/country and she said yes. Because of this she "deserves everything she's getting"??? dry.gif

What a bunch of crap.

She didn't seek out anything. She didn't lobby for the job. She was happy being Governor of Alaska. She downplayed every attempt of people linking her to the VP position.

Obama, Biden, and McCain are the ones who made the concerted effort this cycle for national office. They are the ones who asked for, and thus deserve the anal exam. The only thing you can hold against her is that she said "yes" when asked to help. For that she has received far more scrutiny, far more slander, far more mud-slinging, far more personal intrusion than the person actually running to be president. If that isn't back-asswards I don't know what is.

As for being a complete dunce, perhaps you could post your resume and we'll compare your accomplishments to hers... rolleyes.gif


Nobody wants a BJ from him. biggrin.gif sick.gif

So she agrees to become the VP but she shouldn't be put under the microscope. The lovefest she got for a week after nomination was very biased toward her. It's not anyone's fault but hers that she accepted the nomination. You accept the nomination for the Vice Presidency then you become fodder for discussion. Don't act like she didn't expect it. The media has not gotten on her for her pregnant daughter like Hannity and O'Reilly did about the Spears parents. Funny how they made a complete 180 in order to keep their opinions from slamming the Republican nominee.

The reason the Pubs are slamming the cover is to keep the media away from the issues for awhile.
ExiledInIllinois
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 8 2008, 10:04 PM) *
why does she deserve it? because she was asked to be VP? She was asked to help serve her party/country and she said yes. Because of this she "deserves everything she's getting"??? dry.gif

What a bunch of crap.

She didn't seek out anything. She didn't lobby for the job. She was happy being Governor of Alaska. She downplayed every attempt of people linking her to the VP position.

Obama, Biden, and McCain are the ones who made the concerted effort this cycle for national office. They are the ones who asked for, and thus deserve the anal exam. The only thing you can hold against her is that she said "yes" when asked to help. For that she has received far more scrutiny, far more slander, far more mud-slinging, far more personal intrusion than the person actually running to be president. If that isn't back-asswards I don't know what is.

As for being a complete dunce, perhaps you could post your resume and we'll compare your accomplishments to hers... rolleyes.gif


Thou think you protest too much.

Hey... She is the one who has engaged in being a "pitbull in high heels" from the get go... And she is ramping it up... She is dangerous... Wait till she incites a Lee Harvey type wacko out there. You see these types of chicks everytime when you go to a football game... Usually the ones getting the guys all in a lather.

It is deplorable what she is doing... and turn around is far play, even if she is a chick.

Why should they go easy on her?... Only to get suckered punched. If she gets Obama (or anyone else) killed, will you rejoice?
ExiledInIllinois
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 8 2008, 10:11 PM) *
John McCain, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden have all been national figures for years whose records had already been vetted by the national media. Why shouldn't the media scrutinize Palin who up until late August was unknown to the vast majority of Americans?



Yep. She is being vetted by blood... She willfully fired the first volley at the RNC.
conner
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 8 2008, 10:04 PM) *
why does she deserve it? because she was asked to be VP? She was asked to help serve her party/country and she said yes. Because of this she "deserves everything she's getting"??? dry.gif

What a bunch of crap.

She didn't seek out anything. She didn't lobby for the job. She was happy being Governor of Alaska. She downplayed every attempt of people linking her to the VP position.

Obama, Biden, and McCain are the ones who made the concerted effort this cycle for national office. They are the ones who asked for, and thus deserve the anal exam. The only thing you can hold against her is that she said "yes" when asked to help. For that she has received far more scrutiny, far more slander, far more mud-slinging, far more personal intrusion than the person actually running to be president. If that isn't back-asswards I don't know what is.

As for being a complete dunce, perhaps you could post your resume and we'll compare your accomplishments to hers... rolleyes.gif


I've turned down programming contracts because I know I wouldn't do a great job for the person hiring me, and would basically be stealing money from them for shoddy work. I'd like to think if someone could realize they would not be ready to perform the task of Vice-President of the United States they would turn it down also, so as not to screw over an entire country, instead of one company.

Yes, please do anally examine Obama and Biden also, they certainly deserve it. As well as McCain and Palin. All them need anal examination.

I certainly do hold it against her that she said "yes". It's not like this is a secretary office job. The job position is Vice President of the United States of America. A powerful and demanding office, if ever there was one. There is no shame in not being ready or qualified to accept the position. And if you do accept the position.... prepare for anal probing in every aspect of your life, and prepare for detailed critisism of every word you ever say or every action you ever make.
SDS
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 8 2008, 11:19 PM) *
So she agrees to become the VP but she shouldn't be put under the microscope.


I didn't say that. The phrase I responded to was:

"deserves everything she's getting"

and that is a different story. Of course she deserves to be scrutinized, but it didn't have to come with inane BS that was thrown her way.
elegantelliotoffen
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 8 2008, 11:23 PM) *
Thou think you protest too much.

Hey... She is the one who has engaged in being a "pitbull in high heels" from the get go... And she is ramping it up... She is dangerous... Wait till she incites a Lee Harvey type wacko out there. You see these types of chicks everytime when you go to a football game... Usually the ones getting the guys all in a lather.

It is deplorable what she is doing... and turn around is far play, even if she is a chick.

Why should they go easy on her?... Only to get suckered punched. If she gets Obama (or anyone else) killed, will you rejoice?


Check out these knuckle-dragging mouthbreathers at this McCain-Palin event in Ohio!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E
ExiledInIllinois
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 8 2008, 10:29 PM) *
I didn't say that. The phrase I responded to was:

"deserves everything she's getting"

and that is a different story. Of course she deserves to be scrutinized, but it didn't have to come with inane BS that was thrown her way.


Cut it out. If one can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen... She has been throwing inane BS since the get go.

No quarter was asked and none is given.

wallbash.gif wallbash.gif
ExiledInIllinois
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 8 2008, 10:37 PM) *
Check out these knuckle-dragging mouthbreathers at this McCain-Palin event in Ohio!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E


Palin is one wicked, inciteful b*tch. You can see the wackos she is inciting.
conner
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 8 2008, 11:37 PM) *
Check out these knuckle-dragging mouthbreathers at this McCain-Palin event in Ohio!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

I really doubt that kind of footage is hard to come by either. I bet anyone could go to any Palin rally and get about the same amount of "insight".
SDS
QUOTE (conner @ Oct 8 2008, 11:45 PM) *
I really doubt that kind of footage is hard to come by either. I bet anyone could go to any Palin rally and get about the same amount of "insight".


Would this be like the footage outside the RNC where the protesters couldn't tell you what they were protesting against? Uninformed people are everywhere.
conner
QUOTE (SDS @ Oct 8 2008, 11:57 PM) *
Would this be like the footage outside the RNC where the protesters couldn't tell you what they were protesting against? Uninformed people are everywhere.


Oh man, but did you see the RATM megaphone show, when the police shut em down. You gotta admit, that was awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwzW2QFnwo

I agree though, mobs are dumb, very dumb.
KD in CT
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 8 2008, 11:11 PM) *
John McCain, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden have all been national figures for years whose records had already been vetted by the national media. Why shouldn't the media scrutinize Palin who up until late August was unknown to the vast majority of Americans?


Obama has been a national figure for years? You must be using a very literal definition since he's been a national figure for exactly two years. And what little record he has amassed has never been vetted by the MSM, although they thoroughly covered the color of his skin and his ability to give articulate speeches, so I guess that's just as important.

The kid gloves treatment he has received from the MSM is my primary issue with his candidacy since it has left us without a real understanding of who this man is, what he has supported in the past and what he intends to do as President. Newsweek has simply engaged in the same negligent fawned over him that everyone else has; they just added a Messiah photo to go along with the story. Gee, did they also make his skin lighter as the anti-OJ?

As SD said, anyone who has read Newsweek should understand their political leaning (btw, including an article by someone from the other camp doesn't change the editorial direction of a publication; see also: Times, NY), but the Palin pic is a really silly thing to be complaining about.

Anyone else wish election day was today? I'm so tired of this crap. I'd vote for Obama if it meant I could be spared four more weeks of this nonsense.
molson_golden2002
A female friend of mine that is very liberal brought me that magazine and was taken aback by the cover. She saw the picture as being very insulting to Palin. She hates Palin but thinks the close up showing unplucked eye brows and hair on her lip as being reall malicious.

It's a female thing I guess
Kelly the Fair and Balanced Dog
Maybe because an actual close look at her reveals that she is hideous, and I am not talking one bit about looks.
pBills
Damn. There goes the fence sitting republican pervert vote. Damn you Newsweek for crushing so many hearts.
LABillzFan
QUOTE (Kelly the Fair and Balanced Dog @ Oct 9 2008, 05:35 AM) *
Maybe because an actual close look at her reveals that she is hideous, and I am not talking one bit about looks.

Maybe what we need to do is get together with Governor Palin and Plugs Biden, go down Union Street in Wilmington and go to Katie's restaurant to break bread and find out who really defines hideous. laugh.gif laugh.gif
elegantelliotoffen
QUOTE (KD in CT @ Oct 9 2008, 08:17 AM) *
Obama has been a national figure for years? You must be using a very literal definition since he's been a national figure for exactly two years.


Actually 4 years.
SD Jarhead
I really don't get the hatred of this woman. It's shameful that we've come to this point. And for the record I feel the same way about The way The Messiah is being treated. Answer me this Lefties-why do you hate this woman so much? Is it because she walks the walk?

You may not like her ideas but why dehumanize her? So acording to Exiled in Idiotville ahe's a b*tch? Nice.
LABillzFan
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 9 2008, 06:37 AM) *
Actually 4 years.

When he says "national," he means the United States, not Kenya.
KD in CT
QUOTE (elegantelliotoffen @ Oct 9 2008, 09:37 AM) *
Actually 4 years.


Actually, no. Freshman senators are not national figures -- even if they gave a speech at a convention. 90% of the country couldn't have picked him out of a lineup before he started his campaign for POTUS. For you to attempt to lump him in with Biden and McCain as a long standing public figure is entirely disingenuous.



QUOTE (SD Jarhead @ Oct 9 2008, 09:39 AM) *
You may not like her ideas but why dehumanize her? So acording to Exiled in Idiotville ahe's a b*tch? Nice.


I found EII's use of the word "wacko" to be hysterically ironic. Of all the people on this board...
PastaJoe
Real hockey moms don't wear makeup.
LABillzFan
QUOTE (SD Jarhead @ Oct 9 2008, 06:39 AM) *
I really don't get the hatred of this woman. It's shameful that we've come to this point. And for the record I feel the same way about The way The Messiah is being treated. Answer me this Lefties-why do you hate this woman so much? Is it because she walks the walk?

You may not like her ideas but why dehumanize her? So acording to Exiled in Idiotville ahe's a b*tch? Nice.

The reason the left hate Palin and consider her a bitch and hideous is because THEY were the ones who were supposed to bring a formidable woman to the table at this point, not the right.

Perhaps the most hypocritical part of the left this election year has been how a group that has spent so much time screaming and yelling for women's rights and equality suddenly feel like all woman are knobgobblers who need to stay home, clean the house and shut the fukc up until spoken to. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

But hey...it fits their needs right now. After Obama and Plugs get elected, women will once again be relevant and respected, however the left reserves the right to change their mind as it sees fit.
pBills
QUOTE (LABillzFan @ Oct 9 2008, 10:29 AM) *
The reason the left hate Palin and consider her a bitch and hideous is because THEY were the ones who were supposed to bring a formidable woman to the table at this point, not the right.

Perhaps the most hypocritical part of the left this election year has been how a group that has spent so much time screaming and yelling for women's rights and equality suddenly feel like all woman are knobgobblers who need to stay home, clean the house and shut the fukc up until spoken to. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

But hey...it fits their needs right now. After Obama and Plugs get elected, women will once again be relevant and respected, however the left reserves the right to change their mind as it sees fit.




You are so wrong it's unbelievable. Go ahead though keep spewing this nonsense if it makes you feel better.
Kelly the Fair and Balanced Dog
QUOTE (LABillzFan @ Oct 9 2008, 07:29 AM) *
The reason the left hate Palin and consider her a bitch and hideous is because THEY were the ones who were supposed to bring a formidable woman to the table at this point, not the right.

Perhaps the most hypocritical part of the left this election year has been how a group that has spent so much time screaming and yelling for women's rights and equality suddenly feel like all woman are knobgobblers who need to stay home, clean the house and shut the fukc up until spoken to. laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

But hey...it fits their needs right now. After Obama and Plugs get elected, women will once again be relevant and respected, however the left reserves the right to change their mind as it sees fit.

I actually liked her and thought it was a good move by McCain, thoroughly applauded the move (because he was desperate and had to do something to shake up the race, which he did), thought it was great for the republican party to nominate a woman to that position, and thought she did fabulous under tremendous pressure at the convention. I immediately saw the appeal, and I posted each of those thoughts here on the board, some of them over and over.

Then I saw her answer questions and realized that she did not know what was going on in the world, and had no preparation for this job. She cannot answer simple questions. She is totally unprepared for the job she was handed, and is scary for the country. I don't even care about her political views that I don't agree with. She, as she is, is an affront to intelligence on a world stage. It's possible that in four years of studying every day she could learn enough to be a formidable candidate, but I have my doubts. And numerous serious and well respected republicans share this view.
elegantelliotoffen
QUOTE (KD in CT @ Oct 9 2008, 10:08 AM) *
Actually, no. Freshman senators are not national figures -- even if they gave a speech at a convention. 90% of the country couldn't have picked him out of a lineup before he started his campaign for POTUS. For you to attempt to lump him in with Biden and McCain as a long standing public figure is entirely disingenuous.


You're right, Obama recieved zero national attention between his 2004 DNC speech and his election to the Senate. I mean being featured 642 times in major U.S. publications in the 3 month span between his 2004 DNC speech and his election to the US Senate hardly makes one a national figure. I mean these 10 articles clealry indicate that Obama was still just a local Illinois figure in late 2004-

The New York Times
October 25, 2004 Monday
Late Edition - Final
Illinois Democrat Wins Kenyan Hearts, in a Landslide
BYLINE: By MARC LACEY
SECTION: Section A; Column 3; Foreign Desk; Nyang'oma Journal; Pg. 4
LENGTH: 983 words
DATELINE: NYANG'OMA, Kenya, Oct. 19

The Philadelphia Inquirer
JULY 27, 2004 Tuesday CITY-D EDITION
A rising star gets a key role tonight;
Barack Obama, the keynote speaker, already has proven
he can reach across societal divides and win support.

BYLINE: Carl Chancellor INQUIRER NATIONAL STAFF
SECTION: NATIONAL; Pg. A10
LENGTH: 783 words
DATELINE: SPRINGFIELD, Ill.

Daily News (New York)
July 29, 2004 Thursday
SPORTS FINAL EDITION
ELEPHANT BLUES GOP HAS NO ONE LIKE OBAMA
BYLINE: BY STANLEY CROUCH
SECTION: EDITORIAL; Pg. 47
LENGTH: 468 words

The Washington Times
August 2, 2004 Monday
Who is Barack Obama?
BYLINE: By THE WASHINGTON TIMES
SECTION: EDITORIALS; Pg. A16
LENGTH: 481 words

The Boston Globe
July 27, 2004, Tuesday THIRD EDITION
IN OBAMA, DEMOCRATS SEE THEIR FUTURE
BYLINE: By Susan Milligan Globe staff
SECTION: METRO/REGION; Pg. B8
LENGTH: 1471 words

The Washington Times
July 29, 2004 Thursday
Obama emerges as major party player
BYLINE: By Brian A. DeBose, THE WASHINGTON TIMES
SECTION: PAGE ONE; 2004 DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION; Pg. A01
LENGTH: 910 words

USA TODAY
July 29, 2004, Thursday, FIRST EDITION
Address throws Illinois' Obama into whirlwind of political hope
BYLINE: Richard Benedetto
SECTION: NEWS; Pg. 6A
LENGTH: 523 words
DATELINE: BOSTON

The Globe and Mail (Canada)
July 28, 2004 Wednesday
Early Edition
Meet the Democrats' face of the future;
He has yet to hold office beyond Springfield, Ill., but 42-year-old Barack Obama
is being hailed as the man who could become America's first black president, ALAN FREEMAN reports from the Democratic convention

BYLINE: ALAN FREEMAN
SECTION: INTERNATIONAL NEWS; Pg. A10
LENGTH: 758 words
DATELINE: BOSTON

The Washington Post
August 5, 2004 Thursday
Final Edition
Barack Obama, Shaking Up The Sound-Bite Culture
BYLINE: Tina Brown
SECTION: Style; C01 , TINA BROWN
LENGTH: 949 words

USA TODAY
October 14, 2004, Thursday, FINAL EDITION
Obama extends reach beyond Illinois race
BYLINE: Debbie Howlett
SECTION: NEWS; Pg. 14A
LENGTH: 1393 words
DATELINE: CHICAGO

KD in CT
QUOTE (pBills @ Oct 9 2008, 10:39 AM) *
You are so wrong it's unbelievable. Go ahead though keep spewing this nonsense if it makes you feel better.


No, he's pretty much dead on. You don't have to look much further than Pasta Joe to see the left wing hypocrisy in action. Three months ago he was decrying the sexism that was helping to bring down his candidate. Now he gleefully joins in the same party.
elegantelliotoffen
QUOTE (LABillzFan @ Oct 9 2008, 10:29 AM) *
The reason the left hate Palin and consider her a bitch and hideous is because THEY were the ones who were supposed to bring a formidable woman to the table at this point, not the right.


When did the right "bring a formidable woman to the table"?
pBills
QUOTE (KD in CT @ Oct 9 2008, 10:43 AM) *
No, he's pretty much dead on. You don't have to look much further than Pasta Joe to see the left wing hypocrisy in action. Three months ago he was decrying the sexism that was helping to bring down his candidate. Now he gleefully joins in the same party.




Negative. Most people do not like Palin because she is a moron and has no business being second in charge of this great nation. Plain as day.
BlueFire
OH NO, THEY DID A CLOSEUP OF HER FACE! WHATEVER WILL WE DO?!?!?!
yellowlinesandarmadillos
This doesn't help, it gets a Republican reaction, but really shows what kind of issues really get them up in arms... their looks! The economy is going to sh#$t and they are worried about photoshoped warts and hairs on Palin's face. Great.

The photo manipulation is juvenile... kind of like my Avatar of McCain, but get over it.
SD Jarhead
QUOTE (ExiledInIllinois @ Oct 8 2008, 10:42 PM) *
Palin is one wicked, inciteful b*tch. You can see the wackos she is inciting.


You are a fuggin retard. I'm really suprised they even trust you to handle a weedeater at work with your level of mental ability.

Calling Palin a bitch is no different than calling Obama a n*gger, but you're to ignorant to realize this.

How would you react if someone called your hero a n*gger?
pBills
QUOTE (SD Jarhead @ Oct 9 2008, 11:13 AM) *
You are a fuggin retard. I'm really suprised they even trust you to handle a weedeater at work with your level of mental ability.

Calling Palin a bitch is no different than calling Obama a n*gger, but you're to ignorant to realize this.

How would you react if someone called your hero a n*gger?



You are right. But she is inciteful. And that is ridiculous.
LABillzFan
QUOTE (Kelly the Fair and Balanced Dog @ Oct 9 2008, 07:41 AM) *
Then I saw her answer questions and realized that she did not know what was going on in the world, and had no preparation for this job. She cannot answer simple questions. She is totally unprepared for the job she was handed, and is scary for the country. I don't even care about her political views that I don't agree with. She, as she is, is an affront to intelligence on a world stage. It's possible that in four years of studying every day she could learn enough to be a formidable candidate, but I have my doubts.

Change the pronoun and you just described Obama and Plugs. I have plenty of left-leaning friends who are afraid of BOTH of them. The more I look into Obama's past and associations, the more scared I get. This man has all the makings of a socialist radical who has exhibited the absolute worst judgement I have ever seen from a candidate. I know he keeps denouncing all these folks, and the MSM has been giving him a pass because let's face it, they made Obama the star he is, but if the Odinga thing ever takes root (which it most likely won't right now), this could flip on him in a NY minute. And when the media turns on him, he's done.

Yeah, I know...I'm just a homer kool-aid drinking fool. But when you start going through the associations...Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Odinga...even a Dem has to look around and think "Where there's smoke..." Now you add in all the lying his front men do about who he was with, when he was where, etc., and no decent human being would intentionally go anywhere near such a deceptive person.

One thing I know for sure and something you surely can't deny: the media made Obama. And when the media makes you, it's generally to do one thing and one thing only: to tear you down in embarrassing fashion.

Case in point..it's time to take the elevator up another couple of floors: Dems Say It's Over.
pBills
QUOTE (LABillzFan @ Oct 9 2008, 11:22 AM) *
Change the pronoun and you just described Obama and Plugs. I have plenty of left-leaning friends who are afraid of BOTH of them. The more I look into Obama's past and associations, the more scared I get. This man has all the makings of a socialist radical who has exhibited the absolute worst judgement I have ever seen from a candidate. I know he keeps denouncing all these folks, and the MSM has been giving him a pass because let's face it, they made Obama the star he is, but if the Odinga thing ever takes root (which it most likely won't right now), this could flip on him in a NY minute. And when the media turns on him, he's done.

Yeah, I know...I'm just a homer kool-aid drinking fool. But when you start going through the associations...Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Odinga...even a Dem has to look around and think "Where there's smoke..." Now you add in all the lying his front men do about who he was with, when he was where, etc., and no decent human being would intentionally go anywhere near such a deceptive person.

One thing I know for sure and something you surely can't deny: the media made Obama. And when the media makes you, it's generally to do one thing and one thing only: to tear you down in embarrassing fashion.

Case in point..it's time to take the elevator up another couple of floors: Dems Say It's Over.



What are you smoking and can you pass it this way? Guilt by Association that is all you have. Fact of the matter is that there is really nothing there, but in usual form the GOP will try to use fearmongering to get what they want.

You obviously never looked at Palin or McCain's associations huh? wallbash.gif wallbash.gif
LABillzFan
QUOTE (pBills @ Oct 9 2008, 08:30 AM) *
What are you smoking and can you pass it this way? Guilt by Association that is all you have. Fact of the matter is that there is really nothing there, but in usual form the GOP will try to use fearmongering to get what they want.

You obviously never looked at Palin or McCain's associations huh? wallbash.gif wallbash.gif

Predictable liberal response #137: When you have no response, call it fearmongering. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Kelly the Fair and Balanced Dog
QUOTE (LABillzFan @ Oct 9 2008, 08:22 AM) *
Change the pronoun and you just described Obama and Plugs. I have plenty of left-leaning friends who are afraid of BOTH of them. The more I look into Obama's past and associations, the more scared I get. This man has all the makings of a socialist radical who has exhibited the absolute worst judgement I have ever seen from a candidate. I know he keeps denouncing all these folks, and the MSM has been giving him a pass because let's face it, they made Obama the star he is, but if the Odinga thing ever takes root (which it most likely won't right now), this could flip on him in a NY minute. And when the media turns on him, he's done.

Yeah, I know...I'm just a homer kool-aid drinking fool. But when you start going through the associations...Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Odinga...even a Dem has to look around and think "Where there's smoke..." Now you add in all the lying his front men do about who he was with, when he was where, etc., and no decent human being would intentionally go anywhere near such a deceptive person.

One thing I know for sure and something you surely can't deny: the media made Obama. And when the media makes you, it's generally to do one thing and one thing only: to tear you down in embarrassing fashion.

WTF? The reason people like him is because he's smart, as well as telegenic, and a powerful orator. The media didn't create him, the media gave him no coverage and no chance. He was an also ran. His campaign and his decisions and his ability to speak to people when no one was covering him is what made him, and AFTER he won in Iowa and people started paying attention to him, that is when the media jumped on the bandwagon. He had already virtually won the primary (after Super Tuesday) against the media's favorite, Hillary, before the media actually started fawning all over him. And they did it because they saw the star power in him when he started speaking, they didnt take a nobody and make him a star. Then they jumped over the cliff and went gaga.

He's orchestrated this entire thing and most everyone that follows this stuff, even his biggest haters, acknowledge that his campaign and his decisions and especially THE PEOPLE HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH have been terrific.

Again, from David Brooks, the conservative:
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Brooks predicted an Obama victory by nine points, and said that although he found Obama to be "a very mediocre senator," he was is surrounded by what Brooks called "by far the most impressive people in the Democratic party."

"He's phenomenally good at surrounding himself with a team," Brooks said. "I disagree with them on most issues, but I am given a lot of comfort by the fact that the people he's chosen are exactly the people I think most of us would want to choose if we were in his shoes. So again, I have doubts about him just because he was such a mediocre senator, but his capacity to pick staff is impressive."
LABillzFan
QUOTE (Kelly the Fair and Balanced Dog @ Oct 9 2008, 08:36 AM) *
WTF? The reason people like him is because he's smart, as well as telegenic, and a powerful orator. The media didn't create him, the media gave him no coverage and no chance. He was an also ran. His campaign and his decisions and his ability to speak to people when no one was covering him is what made him, and AFTER he won in Iowa and people started paying attention to him, that is when the media jumped on the bandwagon. He had already virtually won the primary (after Super Tuesday) against the media's favorite, Hillary, before the media actually started fawning all over him. And they did it because they saw the star power in him when he started speaking, they didnt take a nobody and make him a star. Then they jumped over the cliff and went gaga.

He's orchestrated this entire thing and most everyone that follows this stuff, even his biggest haters, acknowledge that his campaign and his decisions and especially THE PEOPLE HE SURROUNDS HIMSELF WITH have been terrific.

Again, from David Brooks, the conservative:

We can agree to disagree. I have to leave now and fire up my Tivo to watch the Obama World Tour that no one covered while reading about Michelle Obama in US, Time, and every other publication filling the checkout stand.

He may have orchestrated it, but he orchestrated it with and through the media. How you can deny that is beyond me.

Just remember what I said, even if you don't agree: the media made him and the media will take him down, especially when they don't have anyone else to focus on. When the Democrats control everything, you think the media will keep beating up on Palin? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
PastaJoe
QUOTE (LABillzFan @ Oct 9 2008, 11:42 AM) *
Just remember what I said, even if you don't agree: the media made him and the media will take him down, especially when they don't have anyone else to focus on. When the Democrats control everything, you think the media will keep beating up on Palin? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Good, the media should scrutinize all gov't officials, especially the president. They lost their nerve after 9/11 and were afraid to question the administration about Iraq. Hopefully they've got their spine back, regardless of what party is in power.
blzrul
My husband believes she looks JUST LIKE Peggy Hill. With a like IQ and the attendant over-confidence in her own abilities.

By the way, were these same wingnuts upset way back in 1994 when that photo of OJ was touched up to make his mug shot look even blacker? In the interests of fairness and accuracy you know....
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