How long into the "Town Hall" debate does the name Ayers come up?


I'm saying the 17 minute mark.

Only if a shill in the audience brings it up IMO. So I have 25 minutes. Obama's team being younger and quicker will have their shill chime in about Neo Nazis and such at the 17 minute mark making McCains shill fall flat.

I'm going to say between 15 minutes

What's your prediction of how long it will take before Obama refers to something as "Bush/McCain"

Just got back with my bottle of Captain Morgan's. Whenever Obama says "Bush", I'm taking a drink, and whenever McCain says "friend", I'm also taking a drink.

If my posting is incoherent tonight, I apologize in advance.

Don't debate and drive

I think I'm going to add the words "7 years" and "Change" to the list, too. Hope i don't end up dead.

"Change" will put your BAC over 1%

How about replacing it with "Community Organizer", and make it a double if Obama comes on stage with his sleeves rolled up

Having just watched the SNL VP debate, add Maverick if you dare

P.S. you did only buy a 375 ml right?

750?

1.75?

Fox News just declared McCain the winner of the debate & MSNBC just declared Obama the winner of the debate. Fox group of independent voters says McCain won, CNN's group of independent voters say Obama won. No need to watch the post debate coverage on any of these channels.

3.5?

Damn you, I should have thought of that.

Meanwhile CNN's magic screen begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. eastern time.
In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

nevermind...

So a little regulation and everything will be just peachy. Good to know.

This whistling with his words thing McCain is doing is killing my ears.

Obama first to invoke 9-11???

Pasta Joe lost some money on that one!

Obama can't even follow the rules of the debate.

Imagine an interview between McCain and Dan Rather

Did you complain when Palin said she wouldn't answer the questions?

She was being a maverick

When does McCain start hitting back? What is he waiting for?

You mean "Mavericky?" A verb.

The eruption would solve the energy crisis.

Answering the questions isn't in the rules.


Brokow keeps complaining about the time, but WTF....why do they only have 2 minutes (or 1 for rebuttal) to answer questions on highly complex issues??? Just enough time to get the sound bite in, but not enough to really.....*DING*....hot pocket is ready.

And I must just be getting old, but didn't 'debate' at one time mean the two parties actually engaged in an exchange back and forth, their responses made to the other party and in direct response to what the other party just said? There isn't even a reason for these guys to be on the stage together.



p.s. health care is a "right"? This guy is a nut case. Life, liberty, health care paid for by for fellow citizens at gunpoint, and the pursuit of happiness. Yeah....that's brilliant.

Yup, he's nuts and so are the vast majority of Americans who agree. I guess I'm nuts for thinking children have a right to health care.

She's mavericky. Adjective.

She acted mavericky. Adverb. (Maybe -lt works?)

In a verb form, "She mavericked the electorate when she became the first politician to tell the truth."

Well done.

"Palin is mavericky with the truth."

McCain is driving me nuts tonight.....he is a moron

I dunno if it's the lighting or a bad makeup job, but Obama looks kind of orange tonite. Like a skinny Oompa Loompa

Gee, you mean really stupid people support the misconception that they are going to get "free" healthcare (and just like my Senator gets!!). What a shock.


So, what's next? Do you also have a "right" to auto and homeowner insurance? Next I suppose you'll want a "right" to a college education. How about the "right" to a condo in Florida for retirement?

Don't worry, money grows on trees. All the government promises that idiots like you lap up has nothing whatsoever to do with our current economic problems.

McCain: "I knew Teddy Roosevelt, he was a friend of mine . . ."

Uh, John, Obama didn't say he would attack Pakistan. He fukked up that answer. Looks weak next to Obama.

Unless McCain has a video of Obama crapping burning dead babies onto an American flag, he my be the first man to lose in all 50 states.

I simply said I think children have a right to healthcare. Yeah, that measures up to your straw men. If you don't think that healthy children are important to the economy then that's your problem.

When does Palin jump out of a cake screaming, "Obama is a terrorist!!!!!"

They do have the right to health care.

Backing off already? I simply attacked the Messiah's absurd assertion that healthcare (for everybody) is a "right". You indicated that you agreed with him. Is that not the case?

No one is auguring that healthy people are economically and socially beneficial to society. But the way to achieve that is not to create another layer of unsustainable government bureaucracy.

Backing off? Uh, no. I agree with him and no one is saying we do it simply by creating "another layer of unsustainable government bureaucracy." The goal is healthy kids and citizens and we need to find a way to make that happen as if healthcare is a basic "right." What part of that don't you agree with?

You're talking like we live in a third world country and kids are dying on the streets.

That was an incredibly dull debate

I want the last hour and a half of my life back

Now we're even.

http://thatvideosite.com/view/115.html

I don't agree that anyone has a "right" to demand someone else take care of them.

Do you really not understand that "health" and "healthcare" are not the same thing? And do you really not understand the bureaucracy and waste that would result from declaring healthcare as a basic right of citizenship? You really think that taxpayers should be paying a million dollars for a lung transplant for a guy who has smoked 2 packs a day for the last 40 years? Can you really not see beyond surface of this issue?

And apparently you are forgetting (or ignoring) that the vast majority of people in this country have every right to be healthy -- be eating a proper diet and exercising as recommended by public health agencies.

I thought McCain won the first 20 mins or so, Obama had some good rebuttals, and on many questions they were both ridiculous.

Also, did anyone notice the ugly woman in the back row with the blue shirt? She looked really, really hot for Obama. I think she wanted the cock.

I don't mean to be condescending but you do realize that millions of kids don't have real healthcare, including dentistry, basic health and when they do go its to the very expensive, budget busting emergency rooms? The CHIP programs are not adequate. No, kids are not dying in the streets by the score but millions of kids are simply not healthy which is killing our budgets. This is not about give-a-ways, just simple common sense. A healthy kid is a healthy adult.

Ironic that this is the first thing I read after getting back from the ER with my wife.


On a slightly different subject...I just got back from the ER with my wife (torn ligament in her knee). Missed the debate. Can some rational people - say...X. Benedict, Blue Fire, GG, and John Adams - give me a run-down?

Let me put it this way. I think we can all agree that your wife suffered far less pain than we all did. Here's to a speedy recovery.













Hers not ours.

You're dodging and weaving and using the simple tactic of putting words in my mouth. Look, why is it so hard to understand that health and healthcare are synonymous? There's no simple answer and personal responsibility is a key factor, but why not explore feasible ways to make sure citizens have affordable healthcare? Why do you hate this basic right to happiness? Why do you hate America?

Nice edit. Keep dreamin' big guy...someday, your Prince Charming will appear.

Outside of some behavior quirks and what not, pretty much the same thing the campaigns have said. The one new thing McCain proposed (right at the beginning of the debate) was a plan to have the government buy up mortgages that were way inflated vs the current cost of the house, and refinance them at the current cost of the house, in order to stabilize home prices.

Any comment on that? You know the economic side of things way better than I do, I'd be curious as to your take on it.

Some jabs back and forth, McCain seemed really weird at times and at other times did really well; Obama seemed his usual cool self. Nothing earth shattering.

Oh, Obama Godwined the debates, mentioning the holocaust and preventing another one.