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June 15, 2008
Missing child Caylee Anthony's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, told authorities the last day they saw Caylee was June 8, but during the investigation police discovered that a video of Caylee reading a book was taken on June 15. The grandparents realized they made a mistake with the date and changed it June 15, 2008.
Cindy Anthony told police she was confused about the date and later recalled that she had taken Caylee to visit her greatgrandfather at a retirement home on Father's Day. She said her husband, George Anthony, had based his recollection of the date based on what Cindy recalled.
July 15, 2008
The Anthonys located their daughter Casey after a towing company contacted them about having their car which Casey regularly drove.
Caylee was not with Casey and at first Casey did not offer any details about her whereabouts.
At some point she told her brother and her parents that Caylee had been missing 31 days and the toddler was taken by her nanny, Zanie. She said she had not contacted the police yet because she was trying to do her own investiation into getting Caylee back.
Cindy immediately drove Casey to a police station, but it was closed. She called 9-1-1 and requested a police officer come to her home to arrest her daughter for car theft and for stealing money.
In a second call to 9-1-1 Cindy told the dispatcher that Caylee had been missing for 31 days and that Casey admitted she had not called the police because she had been trying to find the child herself. She then added, "There's something wrong. I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."
Note by me: Cindy Anthony is a Nurse and should know what a dead body smells like.
July 16, 2008
After uncovering several possible lies Casey told about the events that led to her missing daughter, police placed her under arrest on suspicion of child neglect, providing false official statements and obstructing a criminal investigation. She was originally held without bail.
Casey Anthony's Alleged Lies to Police
* Casey told her parents and the investigators that she dropped Caylee off at an apartment complex where the babysitter, Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez (Zanie) lived, and it was the last time she saw Caylee.
* Investigators found the apartment and discovered it had been vacant for almost five months. The apartment manager told police the named babysitter Gonzalez had never lived in the complex.
* Casey sent investigators to another apartment complex which turned out to be a senior citizens facility.
* Casey then suggested police try another complex where Zenaida's mother supposedly lived, but no one they questioned at the complex could identify Zenaida or her mother as residents of the complex.
* Casey told investigators that she and Zenaida had been working at Universal Studios and that she had been leaving the baby with friends and Zenaida.
* She provided the name of her boss and a phone number with an extension. Investigators learned that Anthony had not worked at the park since April 2006, and the number and name of her supervisor were false.
* Casey told her parents that she was living with friends and Caylee was staying with her friends and Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Investigators reported Casey told two friends that Caylee was with her nanny, visiting theme parks and the beach.
* Investigators reported that friends of Casey described her as "a habitual liar" and that she stole checks from one person they spoke to and $700 from another acquaintance.
* When questioned about Caylee's father, Anthony told investigators that he is dead. Investigators have not been able to confirm her statement.
July 17, 2008
Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler, Caylee Anthony, was officially charged with suspicion of child neglect, providing false official statements and obstructing a criminal investigation.
Orange County Florida Judge John Jordan denied bond for Anthony, telling her, "You left your two-year-old child with a person who does not exist at an apartment you cannot identify and you lied to your parents about your child's whereabouts. You cared so little about your child."
Casey stuck to her original statement, maintaining that she did not know where Caylee was, but that she knew she was alive.
July 17, 2008
Based on tips given to police, investigators searched the home of Cindy and George Anthony after neighbors reported seeing Casey around the home when the Anthony's were away.
Investigators also confiscated a shovel from a neighbor who told police Casey had borrowed it when the parents were away. Allegedly, Casey backed into the driveway, instead of pulling forward into it as she always had, when she first arrived to her parent's home.
Cadaver dogs, trained on finding human decomposition, were brought in to assist with the search. Investigators said the two dogs hit on human decomposition in the back yard and found the same smell in the car Casey Anthony had been driving.
Orange County sheriff's investigator Carlos Padilla told reporters, "We had two different dogs from two different counties that hit on the same exact spot."
Several other items were removed from the home and sent for further testing.
July 17, 2008
Police took possession of the car used by Casey Anthony and reported that possible evidence of human decomposition is in the car trunk.
Cindy Anthony, in defense of her daughter, suggests to reporters that garbage, such as a small piece of pizza, could have caused the smell in the trunk of the car -- a big contrast to what she told police in her July 15 9-1-1 call.
Orange County Sheriff's Detective Yuri Melich told reporters that he did not feel that the smell of human decomposition can be confused with old pizza and what he smelled in the car was human decomposition.
July 17, 2008
Casey Anthony's criminal defense attorney Jose Beaz told reporters during a news conference that an emergency bond hearing was scheduled for July 22, 2008, based on the crimes Casey Anthony was charged. It was his position that the denial of bond for Casey was wrong and that Article 1 section 14 of the Florida Constitution was what the court referenced for their decision, which he did not agree applied to this case.
SECTION 14 Pretrial release and detention.
Unless charged with a capital offense or an offense punishable by life imprisonment and the proof of guilt is evident or the presumption is great, every person charged with a crime or violation of municipal or county ordinance shall be entitled to pretrial release on reasonable conditions. If no conditions of release can reasonably protect the community from risk of physical harm to persons, assure the presence of the accused at trial, or assure the integrity of the judicial process, the accused may be detained.
Beaz said that he had never seen a person denied bail based on what Anthony was charged with and offered a comparison of the standard bail set for the charges.
o Third degree felony - $1,000
o First degree misdemeanor - $500
o Second degree misdemeanor - $250
Reported Misconceptions
Beaz listed misconceptions that were being reported about Anthony, including her refusal to cooperate with authorities.
He said that Casey Anthony had never refused to cooperate with the investigation of her missing 2-year-old child, however he would continue to advice her about making statements.
July 22, 2008
A second bond hearing was held for Casey Anthony, mother of missing child Caylee Anthony, as a result of her attorney challenging the consitutionality of her being held without bond. Family members and investigators were called to testify about Casey and the investigation.
Testimony of Cindy Anthony
Cindy was asked about her relationship with her daughter, which she answered that Casey was her bestfriend. She also said Casey had lied to her before, but they were always able to get to the bottom of things.
When asked if she had ever witnessed Casey abusing Caylee, she said that she never saw any abuse, but just the opposite. She described Casey as a mother who always showed love and patience towards her daughter.
She also said she had heard Casey mention her friend and Caylee's babysitter Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez (Zanie), for at least three years, but had not met her or ever spoken to her.
There were tense moments during the hearing when she was asked to disclose personal information about her finances and if she would be able to afford the cost of her daughter's bond.
George Anthony's Testimony
Casey Anthony's father, George Anthony, was asked by Casey's attorney much of the same questions asked to Cindy Anthony. His answers did not conflict with any of the answers given by his wife and son. The prosecution did not question Mr. Anthony.
Lee Anthony's Testimony
Lee Anthony, Casey's brother, took the stand and described how close he was to Casey. He answered their relationship was based on unconditional love and they could tell each other things they may not feel comfortable telling anybody else, even their own family members.
He also testified that on July 15, he pleaded with Casey, prior to Cindy Anthony calling 9-1-1 to tell whatever she knew about her missing child. He said Casey maintained for 45 minutes that she knew the whereabouts of Caylee and that she was safe. Casey told him she would take the family to her the following morning.
He said before the police arrived Casey broke down and said she hadn't seen her daughter in 31 days.
When asked by Casey's lawyer if given the time with Casey alone, did he believe he could find out what Casey knows about her missing daughter, to which he answered, "I have no doubt in my mind".
Orange County Investigator Yuri Melich's Testimony
Orange County Lead Detective Yuri Melich testified that when searching Casey's car, which is owned by her parents, that he smelled what he described as decomposition. He also testified that strands of hair, which could be Caylee Anthony's hair, as well as dirt and a stain were found in the trunk of the car. The car was sent for forensic testing.
Meilch described Casey as a "person of interest" rather than a suspect in the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee. He discussed tips the police had received including a cell phone photo which showed a mark and bruises on Caylee's body and under her eye. A witness he interviewed also mentioned seeing the child with bruises.
When cross examined, he said there was no direct evidence which proved Casey Anthony had anything to do with the disappearance of her daughter.
Bond Set at $500,000
Judge Stan Strickland set Casey Anthony's bond at $500,000 plus ordered home confinement with electronic monitoring, a complete psychological evaluation within 30 days, and ruled she must turn over her passport if her bond is posted and she is released.
"Not a bit of useful information has been provided by Ms. Anthony as to the whereabouts of her daughter," Judge Strickland said. "And I would add that the truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers."
July 22, 2008
The Anthony's attorney told reporters that a tipster left a message on Cindy Anthony's home phone saying she believed she spoke to Caylee at the Orlando National Airport prior to the child boarding a plane for Atlanta. She said the woman accompanying Caylee was an older woman. She also told Cindy that she spoke to the child and asked her name and age. The child answered she was three and said her name was Caylee "Antony," with the "h" silent, which according to Cindy was the way Caylee said her name.
Cindy also said the woman will be meeting with investigators to answer questions and assist a sketch artist in coming up with a sketch of the woman who allegedly accompanied the missing child.
The Anthonys set up a hotline for people to call in tips about their missing granddaughter Caylee Anthony. Investigators working the missing child's case felt the hotline could hurt their efforts in finding Caylee.
George Anthony Distributed His Pre-Recoded Message
With the help of the Never Lose Hope Foundation, George Anthony sent a large audience his pre-recorded phone message asking for help in finding Caylee.[
Because a cadaver dog alerted on the smell of human decomposition in the trunk of her car, prosecutors believe a missing 2-year-old is dead and her mother is a person of interest in her homicide. Those facts came to light in a bail hearing for Casey Anthony, 22, in an Orlando courtroom.
Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland set bond at $500,000 for the young mother, saying the law did not allow him to hold her without bail on the charges with which she has been charged.
The $500,000 bond was higher than normal for the charges of child neglect, making false official statements and obstructing a criminal investigation -- two misdemeanors and a class-three felony. But prosecutors argued that she be held without bail.
"Not a bit of useful information has been provided by Ms. Anthony as to the whereabouts of her daughter," Judge Strickland said. "And I would add that the truth and Ms. Anthony are strangers."
During the hearing, Sheriff's deputies testified that a cadaver dog alerted to the smell of human remains in Casey Anthony's car and in the Anthony's yard. They found a stain, some dirt and what may be some of Caylee's hair in the trunk of the car.
"The risk of her flight if she is released on some low bond increases exponentially, especially now that she's heard this additional evidence and that she is their person of interest," said assistant state attorney Linda Drane-Burdick.
Meanwhile, Anthony's defense attorney Jose Baez argued that her bail should be set in the $10,000 range, given the charges she currently faces. He said the family cannot afford a high bond.
"This is not a capital case, and if it were they certainly would file it, if they had evidence to," Baez said. "There is circumstantial evidence of a possible homicide, I will give them that. But circumstantial evidence has not made them confident enough to charge her with any specific homicide or kidnapping, or any capital offense."
Investigators said they were still searching for the missing 2-year-old, hoping to find her alive. Caylee's family insists that the child is still alive and Casey knows who has the youngster.
Full Version: Caylee Anthony Case - Anyone Else Following This?
July 23, 2008
The reward for information leading to the safe return of missing child Caylee Anthony has increased from $125,00 to $225,000. The reward is the combination of donations from a local foundation and a local business owner. The reward is good for 90 days.
Other local help of both strangers and friends of the Anthony family has continued with the cost and distribution of flyers with Caylee's picture displayed. Vigils supporting the safe return of the missing child have also been held since Caylee was first reported missing.
Anyone with information which could help in the investigation of missing Caylee Anthony should call Crimeline at 800-423-TIPS.
July 25, 2008
For the first time since Casey Anthony's arrest on July 16, parents George and Cindy Anthony and her brother Lee Anthony visited with her in jail. The family appeared to have renewed optimism that Caylee Anthony is still alive and some of what Casey told investigators will soon be confirmed as being true.
Lee Anthony indicated to reporters that some of the reported "lies" about Casey's employment claims and about the missing nanny Zenaida, have been cleared up. According to Lee, Casey was employed by Kodak, and later Colorvision, at Universal Studios. Both companies held contracts with Universal therefore Universal would not have records of Casey Anthony's employment.
Lee also said there are two people who can confirm that Zanaida Gonzales exists. Casey told her family that one even hired Gonzales as a nanny.
Lee said Casey has tried to communicate how verification of things she has told them could be made, but he felt that police thought she was lying and decided not to follow up on her claims.
"Now we can actually verify these are real people," he said "We need to contact them. Now we're one step closer to finding this person that took Caylee."
This timeline only goes to July 25th. I'll see if I can find the more recent developments.
The reward for information leading to the safe return of missing child Caylee Anthony has increased from $125,00 to $225,000. The reward is the combination of donations from a local foundation and a local business owner. The reward is good for 90 days.
Other local help of both strangers and friends of the Anthony family has continued with the cost and distribution of flyers with Caylee's picture displayed. Vigils supporting the safe return of the missing child have also been held since Caylee was first reported missing.
Anyone with information which could help in the investigation of missing Caylee Anthony should call Crimeline at 800-423-TIPS.
July 25, 2008
For the first time since Casey Anthony's arrest on July 16, parents George and Cindy Anthony and her brother Lee Anthony visited with her in jail. The family appeared to have renewed optimism that Caylee Anthony is still alive and some of what Casey told investigators will soon be confirmed as being true.
Lee Anthony indicated to reporters that some of the reported "lies" about Casey's employment claims and about the missing nanny Zenaida, have been cleared up. According to Lee, Casey was employed by Kodak, and later Colorvision, at Universal Studios. Both companies held contracts with Universal therefore Universal would not have records of Casey Anthony's employment.
Lee also said there are two people who can confirm that Zanaida Gonzales exists. Casey told her family that one even hired Gonzales as a nanny.
Lee said Casey has tried to communicate how verification of things she has told them could be made, but he felt that police thought she was lying and decided not to follow up on her claims.
"Now we can actually verify these are real people," he said "We need to contact them. Now we're one step closer to finding this person that took Caylee."
This timeline only goes to July 25th. I'll see if I can find the more recent developments.
There's a good flash-type timeline on the OrlandoSentinel.com website.
I think the mother killed her, either by neglect or by her direct action, and got rid of the body.
Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever find the little girl's body - it was probably dumped wherever Jennifer Kesse disappeared to.
I think the mother killed her, either by neglect or by her direct action, and got rid of the body.
Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever find the little girl's body - it was probably dumped wherever Jennifer Kesse disappeared to.
My guess:
Caylee Jolie-Pitt
Caylee Jolie-Pitt
August 21st
The mother of a 3-year-old daughter who has been missing since June 16 has been released from jail after a California bounty hunter posted her $500,000 bond. Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, returned to her parents' home in Orlando today wearing a ankle monitoring bracelet.
Her bond was posted by Leonard Padilla of California who worked through a local bail bond agency.
Although she is a "person of interest" in the disappearance of Caylee, Casey Anthony has been charged with child neglect and making false statements to investigators.
Casey claims that she left her daughter with a babysitter on June 16. According to court documents, she told investigators that she did not report Caylee missing because she was conducting her own investigation. She said that she was afraid Caylee would be harmed if she contacted the police.
Police found that the apartment where she said she left her daughter with a babysitter had been vacant for months. Investigators also said that Anthony gave them a bogus employer, manager's name and work telephone number.
Now Free to Talk?
Casey Anthony has been in jail for more than a month. On the advice of her attorney, she has not been talking to inivestigators and even stopped visits with members of her family, because those visits were being videotaped.
Padilla said he posted Casey's bond because he believes that after she is home she will be free to talk and help her family located Caylee.
"It's not about getting Casey out to make sure she feels better," Padilla told reporters. "It's all about the interest of finding Caylee. Hopefully, she will get us some information."
August 27th
Forensic tests conducted on air samples from the trunk of the car used by the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony has detected human decomposition, according to several media sources. Meanwhile, the bounty hunter who bailed Casey Anthony out of jail is having second thoughts about his decision.
Law enforcement officials have not confirmed the test results from the trunk of the car.
Quoting "sources close to the investigation" WOFL in Orlando reported that "preliminary results from a laboratory at the University of Tennessee show air samples taken from the trunk of the car Casey Anthony was driving provided by investigators show the presence of decomposition. These results are prompting investigators to order further tests."
But the Seminole County Sheriff's Department will not confirm the report.
"As has been our policy throughout this investigation we will not discuss the investigative details pertaining to the Caylee Anthony case to include the results of any evidence submitted for laboratory analysis," Capt. Angelo Nieves said.
Bounty Hunter Discouraged
A week ago, California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his nephew, bail bondsman Tony Padilla, arranged to have Casey Anthony bonded out of jail after a month behind bars. They believed that once she was released she would be free to help find her missing daughter. While in jail, Casey had been advised by her attorney not to talk.
But after a week of freedom, Casey apparently is still not providing any information to anyone concerning the whereabouts of Caylee.
Meanwhile, authorities released 400 pages of information about the case this week, including the transcript of Casey's interview with investigators, which details all of the lies that she told not only to authorities, but also to her family and friends.
Leonard Padilla told reporters that Casey has not offered him any information about Caylee and he was shocked at what he read in the newly-released documents.
"I would not have done it had I known then what I know now," Padilla said about posting Casey's bail.
Tony Padilla agreed that bailing Casey out was probably a mistake. "Maybe we got duped a little bit. Maybe we overestimated her," he said. "Hindsight being 20/20, probably not."
Deputy Fired Over Relationship
In another development, the Sheriff's Department confirmed that a deputy has been fired for reportedly lying about his relationship with Casey Anthony.
According to press reports, Anthony Rusciano was fired Aug. 22 after investigators found out that he had a relationship "beyond a casual relationship" with Casey Anthony. They discovered the relationship from information on her computer.
Reportedly, Rusciano said he met Casey only briefly at a party.
August 29th
The mother of a missing Florida girl is back in jail after she was arrested on charges of check fraud and theft charges and a California bounty hunter withdrew his $500,200 bond for Casey Anthony on her original child endangerment charges. Tony Padilla said he surrendered the bond due to new evidence and "heightened security concerns."
Meanwhile, some media outlets are reporting that authorities have confirmed that two-year-old Caylee Anthony's body was in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car.
Two television stations reported that Orange County investigators have the results of lab test that indicate that hair found in the trunk of the car belonged to Caylee and that hair showed signs of decomposition.
However, another Orlando TV station reported that investigators were not ready to confirm that Caylee was in the trunk of the car used by Casey Anthony.
Arrested at Parents' Home
Casey Anthony was arrested at her parents' home Friday and lead away in handcuffs in front of the television cameras. She was charged with uttering a forged instrument, fraudulent use of personal information and petty theft. The charges stem from Casey allegedly using a friend's checkbook and credit card to make purchases and get money.
Casey's attorney protested the actions of the Sheriff's Department because he said he called them and offered to have her surrender on the relatively minor charges and was told no arrest was planned. Then deputies showed up at the Anthony home with cameras glaring.
"They decided to make a spectacle of the event," Jose Baez said. "They chose this moment to grandstand and to utilize their power to go ahead and make an arrest on something they knew two months ago."
Baez said the bond on the charges usually carry a bond of $3,000 total. He attempted to bail her out of jail Friday night, but had to wait until a hearing Saturday morning. Meanwhile, overnight Friday, Padilla withdrew his original bond, leaving Casey Anthony behind bars.
Not mentioned here is that the air in the trunk was saturated with chloroform and they found on Casey's laptop that she had made several searches for chloroform. Which apparently is very easy to order.
There is a lot more on this I don't have here. Nancy Grace has been hammering on this nightly. Although she can be annoying it's a great place to find out latest developments.
Casey is a party girl and my theory is that she tried to put Caylee down for a nap or something so she could leave the house alone and used the chloroform to do this. Since her knowledge of chloroform was probably limited to movies and TV shows she didn't know that you can overdose and kill someone with chloroform.
I forget what day exactly but they have records of several calls being made to her mother and other people, I can't remember but her father was probably one, and she got no answer. This is around the time Caylee disappeard. She never left any messages at this time. I believe she wanted to tell her parents what had happened and when she couldn't get them she took matters into her own hands.
I think she freaked out and borrowed the shovel from the neighbor and then put Caylee's dead body in the car and went somewhere and buried her. Her car ran out of gas on the way home and she left it at the place (a business of some kind) in one of their parking spaces.
She then made up the story about the baby sitter and didn't tell anyone what had happened and then the rest of the story that has been presented here took place.
The mother of a 3-year-old daughter who has been missing since June 16 has been released from jail after a California bounty hunter posted her $500,000 bond. Casey Anthony, mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony, returned to her parents' home in Orlando today wearing a ankle monitoring bracelet.
Her bond was posted by Leonard Padilla of California who worked through a local bail bond agency.
Although she is a "person of interest" in the disappearance of Caylee, Casey Anthony has been charged with child neglect and making false statements to investigators.
Casey claims that she left her daughter with a babysitter on June 16. According to court documents, she told investigators that she did not report Caylee missing because she was conducting her own investigation. She said that she was afraid Caylee would be harmed if she contacted the police.
Police found that the apartment where she said she left her daughter with a babysitter had been vacant for months. Investigators also said that Anthony gave them a bogus employer, manager's name and work telephone number.
Now Free to Talk?
Casey Anthony has been in jail for more than a month. On the advice of her attorney, she has not been talking to inivestigators and even stopped visits with members of her family, because those visits were being videotaped.
Padilla said he posted Casey's bond because he believes that after she is home she will be free to talk and help her family located Caylee.
"It's not about getting Casey out to make sure she feels better," Padilla told reporters. "It's all about the interest of finding Caylee. Hopefully, she will get us some information."
August 27th
Forensic tests conducted on air samples from the trunk of the car used by the mother of missing toddler Caylee Anthony has detected human decomposition, according to several media sources. Meanwhile, the bounty hunter who bailed Casey Anthony out of jail is having second thoughts about his decision.
Law enforcement officials have not confirmed the test results from the trunk of the car.
Quoting "sources close to the investigation" WOFL in Orlando reported that "preliminary results from a laboratory at the University of Tennessee show air samples taken from the trunk of the car Casey Anthony was driving provided by investigators show the presence of decomposition. These results are prompting investigators to order further tests."
But the Seminole County Sheriff's Department will not confirm the report.
"As has been our policy throughout this investigation we will not discuss the investigative details pertaining to the Caylee Anthony case to include the results of any evidence submitted for laboratory analysis," Capt. Angelo Nieves said.
Bounty Hunter Discouraged
A week ago, California bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his nephew, bail bondsman Tony Padilla, arranged to have Casey Anthony bonded out of jail after a month behind bars. They believed that once she was released she would be free to help find her missing daughter. While in jail, Casey had been advised by her attorney not to talk.
But after a week of freedom, Casey apparently is still not providing any information to anyone concerning the whereabouts of Caylee.
Meanwhile, authorities released 400 pages of information about the case this week, including the transcript of Casey's interview with investigators, which details all of the lies that she told not only to authorities, but also to her family and friends.
Leonard Padilla told reporters that Casey has not offered him any information about Caylee and he was shocked at what he read in the newly-released documents.
"I would not have done it had I known then what I know now," Padilla said about posting Casey's bail.
Tony Padilla agreed that bailing Casey out was probably a mistake. "Maybe we got duped a little bit. Maybe we overestimated her," he said. "Hindsight being 20/20, probably not."
Deputy Fired Over Relationship
In another development, the Sheriff's Department confirmed that a deputy has been fired for reportedly lying about his relationship with Casey Anthony.
According to press reports, Anthony Rusciano was fired Aug. 22 after investigators found out that he had a relationship "beyond a casual relationship" with Casey Anthony. They discovered the relationship from information on her computer.
Reportedly, Rusciano said he met Casey only briefly at a party.
August 29th
The mother of a missing Florida girl is back in jail after she was arrested on charges of check fraud and theft charges and a California bounty hunter withdrew his $500,200 bond for Casey Anthony on her original child endangerment charges. Tony Padilla said he surrendered the bond due to new evidence and "heightened security concerns."
Meanwhile, some media outlets are reporting that authorities have confirmed that two-year-old Caylee Anthony's body was in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car.
Two television stations reported that Orange County investigators have the results of lab test that indicate that hair found in the trunk of the car belonged to Caylee and that hair showed signs of decomposition.
However, another Orlando TV station reported that investigators were not ready to confirm that Caylee was in the trunk of the car used by Casey Anthony.
Arrested at Parents' Home
Casey Anthony was arrested at her parents' home Friday and lead away in handcuffs in front of the television cameras. She was charged with uttering a forged instrument, fraudulent use of personal information and petty theft. The charges stem from Casey allegedly using a friend's checkbook and credit card to make purchases and get money.
Casey's attorney protested the actions of the Sheriff's Department because he said he called them and offered to have her surrender on the relatively minor charges and was told no arrest was planned. Then deputies showed up at the Anthony home with cameras glaring.
"They decided to make a spectacle of the event," Jose Baez said. "They chose this moment to grandstand and to utilize their power to go ahead and make an arrest on something they knew two months ago."
Baez said the bond on the charges usually carry a bond of $3,000 total. He attempted to bail her out of jail Friday night, but had to wait until a hearing Saturday morning. Meanwhile, overnight Friday, Padilla withdrew his original bond, leaving Casey Anthony behind bars.
Not mentioned here is that the air in the trunk was saturated with chloroform and they found on Casey's laptop that she had made several searches for chloroform. Which apparently is very easy to order.
There is a lot more on this I don't have here. Nancy Grace has been hammering on this nightly. Although she can be annoying it's a great place to find out latest developments.
Casey is a party girl and my theory is that she tried to put Caylee down for a nap or something so she could leave the house alone and used the chloroform to do this. Since her knowledge of chloroform was probably limited to movies and TV shows she didn't know that you can overdose and kill someone with chloroform.
I forget what day exactly but they have records of several calls being made to her mother and other people, I can't remember but her father was probably one, and she got no answer. This is around the time Caylee disappeard. She never left any messages at this time. I believe she wanted to tell her parents what had happened and when she couldn't get them she took matters into her own hands.
I think she freaked out and borrowed the shovel from the neighbor and then put Caylee's dead body in the car and went somewhere and buried her. Her car ran out of gas on the way home and she left it at the place (a business of some kind) in one of their parking spaces.
She then made up the story about the baby sitter and didn't tell anyone what had happened and then the rest of the story that has been presented here took place.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 11 2008, 11:37 PM) 
There's a good flash-type timeline on the OrlandoSentinel.com website.
I think the mother killed her, either by neglect or by her direct action, and got rid of the body.
Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever find the little girl's body - it was probably dumped wherever Jennifer Kesse disappeared to.
I think the mother killed her, either by neglect or by her direct action, and got rid of the body.
Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever find the little girl's body - it was probably dumped wherever Jennifer Kesse disappeared to.
Soooooooooooo many people are looking for this body it might be found. I hope so this is a case I'd really like to know about. Even if they find the body the mother is such a pathological lier that she will never give out the real story. Finding the body would be a huge step in getting Casey put away for a looooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnngggggggg time. They already have enough, IMO, circumstantial evidence to get a murder conviction on her but a body would cinch it.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Sep 12 2008, 12:04 AM)
Soooooooooooo many people are looking for this body it might be found. I hope so this is a case I'd really like to know about. Even if they find the body the mother is such a pathological lier that she will never give out the real story. Finding the body would be a huge step in getting Casey put away for a looooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnngggggggg time. They already have enough, IMO, circumstantial evidence to get a murder conviction on her but a body would cinch it.
And soooooooooooo many people have been looking for Jennifer Kesse (an adult who disappeared from outside her Orlando apartment) with no luck for almost three years. There are a ton of lakes around Orlando - according to this list, 70+ within five miles of Orlando - so unless they did something stupid like burying the body, there is a very good chance that they never find this little girl.
I hope to God I am wrong about this and the little girl is found alive and well, or at the very least is found so the killer gets justice, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 12 2008, 12:23 AM)
And soooooooooooo many people have been looking for Jennifer Kesse (an adult who disappeared from outside her Orlando apartment) with no luck for almost three years. There are a ton of lakes around Orlando - according to this list, 70+ within five miles of Orlando - so unless they did something stupid like burying the body, there is a very good chance that they never find this little girl.
I hope to God I am wrong about this and the little girl is found alive and well, or at the very least is found so the killer gets justice, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
I hope to God I am wrong about this and the little girl is found alive and well, or at the very least is found so the killer gets justice, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
I'd like to find her alive too but I think the evidence is overwhelming that she's dead.
There is a lot of evidence in this case and we know who most likely did it which makes it easier to figure out where the body might be.
The link you put in is only for a hiking site. I don't know if they know who killed her. With Caylee's case they are pretty sure the body is within 3 miles of the house.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Sep 12 2008, 12:28 AM)
I'd like to find her alive too but I think the evidence is overwhelming that she's dead.
There is a lot of evidence in this case and we know who most likely did it which makes it easier to figure out where the body might be.
The link you put in is only for a hiking site. I don't know if they know who killed her. With Caylee's case they are pretty sure the body is within 3 miles of the house.
There is a lot of evidence in this case and we know who most likely did it which makes it easier to figure out where the body might be.
The link you put in is only for a hiking site. I don't know if they know who killed her. With Caylee's case they are pretty sure the body is within 3 miles of the house.
Really? The hiking site I linked doesn't know who killed her? Crap, I better call Shaq and update him before he wakes those people up, thinking he's about to put a big point on his law-enforcement resume.
Being a hiking site doesn't have anything to with knowing who killed her. It's just a listing of how many bodies of water - i.e., possible dumping sites - there are within a 10-minute drive of her mother's/grandparent's house.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 12 2008, 12:37 AM)
Really? The hiking site I linked doesn't know who killed her? Crap, I better call Shaq and update him before he wakes those people up, thinking he's about to put a big point on his law-enforcement resume.
Being a hiking site doesn't have anything to with knowing who killed her. It's just a listing of how many bodies of water - i.e., possible dumping sites - there are within a 10-minute drive of her mother's/grandparent's house.
Being a hiking site doesn't have anything to with knowing who killed her. It's just a listing of how many bodies of water - i.e., possible dumping sites - there are within a 10-minute drive of her mother's/grandparent's house.
You needed to explain that. I guess I didn't get that and I thought it was a link about the Jennifer Kesse case. The investigators are pretty sure that Caylee is buried within 3 miles of their house. The rain may have washed away a lot of evidence but I still think the odds of finding her body are not that slim. They are slim but not slim to none.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Sep 12 2008, 03:22 AM)
You needed to explain that. I guess I didn't get that and I thought it was a link about the Jennifer Kesse case. The investigators are pretty sure that Caylee is buried within 3 miles of their house. The rain may have washed away a lot of evidence but I still think the odds of finding her body are not that slim. They are slim but not slim to none.
Sorry you didn't follow. I thought it was pretty clear but it was late, so maybe I worded it poorly.
The point is - if they dropped that little girl in a lake then chances are very, very good that she's gone and will never be found. If they were dumb enough to bury her within three mils of the house then the chances improve dramatically, but then again the EquuSearch search team suspended search operations due to flooding near the possible burial sites. The flooding could be the wildcard as well - if the child was buried in an area that was flooded, the waters could have unearthed the body or carried it somewhere they aren't looking.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 12 2008, 10:52 AM)
Sorry you didn't follow. I thought it was pretty clear but it was late, so maybe I worded it poorly.
The point is - if they dropped that little girl in a lake then chances are very, very good that she's gone and will never be found. If they were dumb enough to bury her within three mils of the house then the chances improve dramatically, but then again the EquuSearch search team suspended search operations due to flooding near the possible burial sites. The flooding could be the wildcard as well - if the child was buried in an area that was flooded, the waters could have unearthed the body or carried it somewhere they aren't looking.
The point is - if they dropped that little girl in a lake then chances are very, very good that she's gone and will never be found. If they were dumb enough to bury her within three mils of the house then the chances improve dramatically, but then again the EquuSearch search team suspended search operations due to flooding near the possible burial sites. The flooding could be the wildcard as well - if the child was buried in an area that was flooded, the waters could have unearthed the body or carried it somewhere they aren't looking.
It was late and I probably couldn't read well. Casey borrowed a shovel so I'm pretty sure she buried the body.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Sep 12 2008, 12:31 PM)
It was late and I probably couldn't read well. Casey borrowed a shovel so I'm pretty sure she buried the body.
Ah, I missed that detail. That keeps hope alive that they may indeed find her.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 12 2008, 05:30 PM)
Ah, I missed that detail. That keeps hope alive that they may indeed find her.
There is something very disturbing about her borrowing a shovel. Didn't they have any shovels at her house? If they did then I wonder if she was trying to set him up if the body was found and there was the same dirt on the shovel.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Sep 27 2008, 06:36 PM)
Here's another ring being added to this circus:
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Zenaida Gonzalez Hires John Morgan For Lawsuit Against Casey Anthony
POSTED: 7:41 am EDT September 25, 2008
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The young mother of Caylee Anthony is being sued. High-profile Orlando attorney John Morgan filed a lawsuit Wednesday on behalf of a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez, the same name as the so-called nanny that Casey claims kidnapped her little girl.
Zenaida Gonzalez says she has had enough. The civil suit was filed Wednesday afternoon. She wants Casey Anthony to pay for her lies.
T-shirts reading "The Nanny Did It" and "Zanny the Nanny" are just some one of the reasons why Zenaida Gonzales is suing Casey Anthony. Gonzales has never shown her face, but says thousands of people believe she either kidnapped or killed Caylee Anthony. "What we want to make sure is that Casey Anthony does not profit for throwing Zenaida Gonzalez under the bus. They are out there talking about movie deals, book deals. There are t-shirts being sold," attorney John Morgan told Eyewitness News.
High-profile attorney John Morgan is seen on TV ads and has a firm of 130 attorneys. He is representing Gonzalez in the defamation lawsuit.
After Caylee was reported missing, Casey told detectives she dropped off the child at Zenaida Gonzalez's apartment off Conway Road and now has no idea where the child is. Gonzalez says she's never met Casey and wants her name cleared.
"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.
Morgan said his client's private life has been turned upside down. They want a settlement that could be partly paid out of the Anthony homeowner's insurance policy.
"She never asked for this. Casey Anthony asked that she be brought in to deflect her own issues," Morgan said.
Eyewitness News tried to get a comment form Casey Anthony's spokesperson, Todd Black, but phone calls were not returned.
This is interesting because of all the trouble that this lady has been caused by Casey's lie. I believe she deserves something if what she says is true, I have no reason to doubt it right now, she's got a good case. The best thing about this is it will force Casey to submit an answer to the lawsuit and that really puts the pressure on her. What is she going to say?
This is a really cool twist to this whole thing.
Linkage
Zenaida Gonzalez Hires John Morgan For Lawsuit Against Casey Anthony
POSTED: 7:41 am EDT September 25, 2008
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- The young mother of Caylee Anthony is being sued. High-profile Orlando attorney John Morgan filed a lawsuit Wednesday on behalf of a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez, the same name as the so-called nanny that Casey claims kidnapped her little girl.
Zenaida Gonzalez says she has had enough. The civil suit was filed Wednesday afternoon. She wants Casey Anthony to pay for her lies.
T-shirts reading "The Nanny Did It" and "Zanny the Nanny" are just some one of the reasons why Zenaida Gonzales is suing Casey Anthony. Gonzales has never shown her face, but says thousands of people believe she either kidnapped or killed Caylee Anthony. "What we want to make sure is that Casey Anthony does not profit for throwing Zenaida Gonzalez under the bus. They are out there talking about movie deals, book deals. There are t-shirts being sold," attorney John Morgan told Eyewitness News.
High-profile attorney John Morgan is seen on TV ads and has a firm of 130 attorneys. He is representing Gonzalez in the defamation lawsuit.
After Caylee was reported missing, Casey told detectives she dropped off the child at Zenaida Gonzalez's apartment off Conway Road and now has no idea where the child is. Gonzalez says she's never met Casey and wants her name cleared.
"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.
Morgan said his client's private life has been turned upside down. They want a settlement that could be partly paid out of the Anthony homeowner's insurance policy.
"She never asked for this. Casey Anthony asked that she be brought in to deflect her own issues," Morgan said.
Eyewitness News tried to get a comment form Casey Anthony's spokesperson, Todd Black, but phone calls were not returned.
This is interesting because of all the trouble that this lady has been caused by Casey's lie. I believe she deserves something if what she says is true, I have no reason to doubt it right now, she's got a good case. The best thing about this is it will force Casey to submit an answer to the lawsuit and that really puts the pressure on her. What is she going to say?
This is a really cool twist to this whole thing.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Sep 27 2008, 07:10 PM)
Here's a theory about how she came up with the name Zanny the Nanny.
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Casey Anthony might have made up the name of Caylee's so-called nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez, from former classmates' names and the street name for a drug.
Casey Anthony said she used to call Zenaida Gonzalez "Zanny," which Eyewitness News found out is also the street name for the anti-anxiety drug Xanax. Eyewitness News has also learned that investigators have asked at least one of her friends questions about Casey and Xanax during a lie detector test
Here's another theory:
Some believe that she got the name from this book : Double Trouble Squared: A Starbuck Twins Mystery.
Abnormal as the Starbuck family is, it is about to become more so when their father gets a job in England. Their mother cannot move overseas but agrees to let the kids go with their nanny, Zanny. While in England, July insists on visiting all the haunts of his favorite fictional detective, Sherlock Holmes. As Liberty tags along, she realizes that something is interfering with their psychic connection. To make matters worse, an evil villain seems to be stalking them, using Sir Author Conan Doyle's very words. Things really heat up when the twins discover yet another voice communicating with them ... centered around their bedroom. Now they must put all they know about Sherlock Holmes to the test in order to solve the mystery.
That book was first published in 1991 which, if my math is correct, is when Casey would have been six years old.
Linkage
Casey Anthony might have made up the name of Caylee's so-called nanny, Zenaida Gonzalez, from former classmates' names and the street name for a drug.
Casey Anthony said she used to call Zenaida Gonzalez "Zanny," which Eyewitness News found out is also the street name for the anti-anxiety drug Xanax. Eyewitness News has also learned that investigators have asked at least one of her friends questions about Casey and Xanax during a lie detector test
Here's another theory:
Some believe that she got the name from this book : Double Trouble Squared: A Starbuck Twins Mystery.
Abnormal as the Starbuck family is, it is about to become more so when their father gets a job in England. Their mother cannot move overseas but agrees to let the kids go with their nanny, Zanny. While in England, July insists on visiting all the haunts of his favorite fictional detective, Sherlock Holmes. As Liberty tags along, she realizes that something is interfering with their psychic connection. To make matters worse, an evil villain seems to be stalking them, using Sir Author Conan Doyle's very words. Things really heat up when the twins discover yet another voice communicating with them ... centered around their bedroom. Now they must put all they know about Sherlock Holmes to the test in order to solve the mystery.
That book was first published in 1991 which, if my math is correct, is when Casey would have been six years old.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 12 2008, 12:23 AM)
And soooooooooooo many people have been looking for Jennifer Kesse (an adult who disappeared from outside her Orlando apartment) with no luck for almost three years. There are a ton of lakes around Orlando - according to this list, 70+ within five miles of Orlando - so unless they did something stupid like burying the body, there is a very good chance that they never find this little girl.
I hope to God I am wrong about this and the little girl is found alive and well, or at the very least is found so the killer gets justice, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
I hope to God I am wrong about this and the little girl is found alive and well, or at the very least is found so the killer gets justice, but I just don't see it happening anytime soon.
It is actually surprisingly easy to dispose of a body.
...uhhh...or so I've heard.
QUOTE (DC Tom @ Sep 27 2008, 08:48 PM)
It is actually surprisingly easy to dispose of a body.
...uhhh...or so I've heard.
...uhhh...or so I've heard.
I wondered where Molson went.
I heard the PPP board was getting crazy but I never thought it would get that bad...
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 27 2008, 09:43 PM)
I heard the PPP board was getting crazy but I never thought it would get that bad...
About this?
Here's an interview with her attorney.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Sep 30 2008, 07:28 PM)
No, the idea of the PPP board getting so crazy that DC Tom killed Molson and found it easy to dispose of the body...
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Sep 30 2008, 09:42 PM)
No, the idea of the PPP board getting so crazy that DC Tom killed Molson and found it easy to dispose of the body...
OOOooooooooohhhhhhhh!!
Got it!
This Casey Anthony girl is a real piece...of work. Yeah, that's what I mean.
She's not a party girl; she's a flippin' tramp. I'm surprised nude photos of her haven't shown up online yet.
I believe that Steely Dan's theory is correct. It is my belief that Casey drugged her daughter so she could go drink, do drugs, and act wild like she apparently has for years. But, she overdosed her own daughter, probably with chloroform.
There's also been some evidence that Casey likes to part her legs for just about anyone who comes along. She's from a fairly well-to-do family, and she never had to do a damn thing for herself. But then, she got pregnant at 19...and, considering what we know about Casey now, I think it's surprising that she didn't have an abortion.
Somewhere along the way, Casey also became a chronic and pathological liar.
Caylee is dead. This is not going to end well...for anyone.
She's not a party girl; she's a flippin' tramp. I'm surprised nude photos of her haven't shown up online yet.
I believe that Steely Dan's theory is correct. It is my belief that Casey drugged her daughter so she could go drink, do drugs, and act wild like she apparently has for years. But, she overdosed her own daughter, probably with chloroform.
There's also been some evidence that Casey likes to part her legs for just about anyone who comes along. She's from a fairly well-to-do family, and she never had to do a damn thing for herself. But then, she got pregnant at 19...and, considering what we know about Casey now, I think it's surprising that she didn't have an abortion.
Somewhere along the way, Casey also became a chronic and pathological liar.
Caylee is dead. This is not going to end well...for anyone.
Nice that she was banging one of the sheriff's deputies involved in the investigation. Or that the mother wanted to put her up for adoption but the grandmother wore her down and convinced her to keep the baby.
The whole lot of them are fugged up. The grandparents know WTF happened and are not letting on and instead are playing the victim. I have no doubt of that.
Orlando Sentinel has a good page set up with ongoing updates, LINK HERE.
The whole lot of them are fugged up. The grandparents know WTF happened and are not letting on and instead are playing the victim. I have no doubt of that.
Orlando Sentinel has a good page set up with ongoing updates, LINK HERE.
This link is NSFW, but it shows what an ugly person Casey is:
Link to explicit IMs between Casey and the deputy she was "seeing" (warning: NSFW).
Link to explicit IMs between Casey and the deputy she was "seeing" (warning: NSFW).
QUOTE (buckeyemike @ Oct 1 2008, 07:54 PM)
This Casey Anthony girl is a real piece...of work. Yeah, that's what I mean.
She's not a party girl; she's a flippin' tramp. I'm surprised nude photos of her haven't shown up online yet.
I believe that Steely Dan's theory is correct. It is my belief that Casey drugged her daughter so she could go drink, do drugs, and act wild like she apparently has for years. But, she overdosed her own daughter, probably with chloroform.
There's also been some evidence that Casey likes to part her legs for just about anyone who comes along. She's from a fairly well-to-do family, and she never had to do a damn thing for herself. But then, she got pregnant at 19...and, considering what we know about Casey now, I think it's surprising that she didn't have an abortion.
Somewhere along the way, Casey also became a chronic and pathological liar.
Caylee is dead. This is not going to end well...for anyone.
She's not a party girl; she's a flippin' tramp. I'm surprised nude photos of her haven't shown up online yet.
I believe that Steely Dan's theory is correct. It is my belief that Casey drugged her daughter so she could go drink, do drugs, and act wild like she apparently has for years. But, she overdosed her own daughter, probably with chloroform.
There's also been some evidence that Casey likes to part her legs for just about anyone who comes along. She's from a fairly well-to-do family, and she never had to do a damn thing for herself. But then, she got pregnant at 19...and, considering what we know about Casey now, I think it's surprising that she didn't have an abortion.
Somewhere along the way, Casey also became a chronic and pathological liar.
Caylee is dead. This is not going to end well...for anyone.
She wanted to abort but her mom wouldn't let her.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Oct 1 2008, 08:00 PM)
Nice that she was banging one of the sheriff's deputies involved in the investigation. Or that the mother wanted to put her up for adoption but the grandmother wore her down and convinced her to keep the baby.
The whole lot of them are fugged up. The grandparents know WTF happened and are not letting on and instead are playing the victim. I have no doubt of that.
Orlando Sentinel has a good page set up with ongoing updates, LINK HERE.
The whole lot of them are fugged up. The grandparents know WTF happened and are not letting on and instead are playing the victim. I have no doubt of that.
Orlando Sentinel has a good page set up with ongoing updates, LINK HERE.
Thanks for the link.
QUOTE (buckeyemike @ Oct 1 2008, 08:02 PM)
This link is NSFW, but it shows what an ugly person Casey is:
Link to explicit IMs between Casey and the deputy she was "seeing" (warning: NSFW).
Link to explicit IMs between Casey and the deputy she was "seeing" (warning: NSFW).
Have only read a few pages but it's insane how she talks about job she doesn't have and a babysitter that doesn't exist.
She said at one time that Zanny and her sister Rachel had had a car accident and were taken to (I'm not sure which one but she named it specifically) the hospital and she named the exact date. This is very easy for the police to confirm. So far they haven't released the info about that piece of the investigation.
It's believed that she got so much information about Zaneida from a form she filled out to get an apartment.
Everytime I see the images of Caylee at the beginning of the case it tears my heart out. Especially the footage of her being held in her great grandfathers lap and she has her head against his chest.
It's probably better she didn't grow up in that extremely dysfunctional family.
The police today moved Casey Anthony from a person of interest up to a suspect.
It's probably better she didn't grow up in that extremely dysfunctional family.
The police today moved Casey Anthony from a person of interest up to a suspect.
Today it's reported her lawyer said it's not in her best interest to tell anyone what she knows. Hmmmm.
Also, a woman, who works at the airport, is reporting that a woman with a ball cap pulled down over her eyes who drives the same car Casey drives was seen walking out of wooded area near Orlando Airport. She noticed this because a friend of hers drives the same kind of car, a white Pontiac Sunbird. She was concerned her friend was having car trouble but when she saw bumper stickers on the car she knew it wasn't her friends. Evidently this is something that happened a long time ago but is just being released now. Hnnnmm.
Also, a woman, who works at the airport, is reporting that a woman with a ball cap pulled down over her eyes who drives the same car Casey drives was seen walking out of wooded area near Orlando Airport. She noticed this because a friend of hers drives the same kind of car, a white Pontiac Sunbird. She was concerned her friend was having car trouble but when she saw bumper stickers on the car she knew it wasn't her friends. Evidently this is something that happened a long time ago but is just being released now. Hnnnmm.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 2 2008, 08:32 PM)
Today it's reported her lawyer said it's not in her best interest to tell anyone what she knows. Hmmmm.
Also, a woman, who works at the airport, is reporting that a woman with a ball cap pulled down over her eyes who drives the same car Casey drives was seen walking out of wooded area near Orlando Airport. She noticed this because a friend of hers drives the same kind of car, a white Pontiac Sunbird. She was concerned her friend was having car trouble but when she saw bumper stickers on the car she knew it wasn't her friends. Evidently this is something that happened a long time ago but is just being released now. Hnnnmm.
Also, a woman, who works at the airport, is reporting that a woman with a ball cap pulled down over her eyes who drives the same car Casey drives was seen walking out of wooded area near Orlando Airport. She noticed this because a friend of hers drives the same kind of car, a white Pontiac Sunbird. She was concerned her friend was having car trouble but when she saw bumper stickers on the car she knew it wasn't her friends. Evidently this is something that happened a long time ago but is just being released now. Hnnnmm.
Lots of secluded, undeveloped spaces and lots of lakes and bodies of water around that airport. Lot of possible places to dump a body...
Where's the shaking head smiley when you need it?
Also - she's now officially a "suspect" in her daughter's disappearance.
I'm starting to agree with you that the shovel may have never been used and she dumped the body in a lake. If there are a lot of alligtors around there they'll probably never find her, especially if Casey threw her in without clothes to find.
Updated Information
7:56 PM ET - Reports surface Grandparents George and Cindy Anthony and brother, Lee Anthony will be witnesses at next Tuesday's secret grand jury. This, as Caylee's grandparents reportedly volunteer to give investigators DNA but authorities forced to get a search warrant to get DNA from brother, Lee Anthony. The state set to present hair, fluid cadaver dog, and chlorform evidence connected to mom Casey Anthony's car trunk to the grand jury. Investigators say they are confident they have substantial evidence to get a conviction. (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)
It's very interesting that her brother refused to give DNA, did he help her?
Her brother and the rest of the family refused to take a lie detector test.
7:56 PM ET - Reports surface Grandparents George and Cindy Anthony and brother, Lee Anthony will be witnesses at next Tuesday's secret grand jury. This, as Caylee's grandparents reportedly volunteer to give investigators DNA but authorities forced to get a search warrant to get DNA from brother, Lee Anthony. The state set to present hair, fluid cadaver dog, and chlorform evidence connected to mom Casey Anthony's car trunk to the grand jury. Investigators say they are confident they have substantial evidence to get a conviction. (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)
It's very interesting that her brother refused to give DNA, did he help her?
Her brother and the rest of the family refused to take a lie detector test.
Friday Oct. 10, 2008
4:51 PM ET - After anticipating Casey Anthony's personal appearance in court today, the mom of 3 year old missing girl, Caylee, is a no show. But the hearing goes on, the judge ruling on several motions. To start with, the defense gets access to Casey Anthony's car and forensic evidence, including air samples, hair and chloroform connected to that car trunk. This evidence must be turned over by the state within 10 days. The defense team also will get computer searches, polygraphs, Department of Children and Family records, police tips about Caylee, and all evidence on Zenaida Gonzalez (the name of the nanny Casey Anthony claims kidnapped Caylee). The judge turns down a motion for cadaver dog results because the defense can make their own request for that evidence by way of public records. The sheriff's office says they will comply with the judge's orders, but their main goal continues to be finding Caylee. 3 motions are still on the table: a motion to seal Casey Anthony's home confinement schedule, a motion to preserve evidence, and the most stunning motion...mom Casey wants to go out on her own "secret" searches to "key", unspecified places of interest in the search for her little girl. But will a secret grand jury hand down murder or manslaughter charges against Casey Anthony next Tuesday? (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)
4:51 PM ET - After anticipating Casey Anthony's personal appearance in court today, the mom of 3 year old missing girl, Caylee, is a no show. But the hearing goes on, the judge ruling on several motions. To start with, the defense gets access to Casey Anthony's car and forensic evidence, including air samples, hair and chloroform connected to that car trunk. This evidence must be turned over by the state within 10 days. The defense team also will get computer searches, polygraphs, Department of Children and Family records, police tips about Caylee, and all evidence on Zenaida Gonzalez (the name of the nanny Casey Anthony claims kidnapped Caylee). The judge turns down a motion for cadaver dog results because the defense can make their own request for that evidence by way of public records. The sheriff's office says they will comply with the judge's orders, but their main goal continues to be finding Caylee. 3 motions are still on the table: a motion to seal Casey Anthony's home confinement schedule, a motion to preserve evidence, and the most stunning motion...mom Casey wants to go out on her own "secret" searches to "key", unspecified places of interest in the search for her little girl. But will a secret grand jury hand down murder or manslaughter charges against Casey Anthony next Tuesday? (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 14 2008, 01:28 PM)
I'll take your word for it. Personally I'd rather crawl across broken glass than listen to that screeching hack.
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-- The mother of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony has been indicted on a first-degree murder charge, prosecutors say.
From CNN
QUOTE (Beerball @ Oct 14 2008, 05:10 PM)
From CNN
She's screwed body or no body found. If you were on a jury and were told this about the defendant:
1. She waited a month to tell anyone her daughter was missing because she claimed the child was with a nanny that doesn't exist and she wasn't concerned.
2. On her 911 call her mother, a nurse, stated the car smelled like it had a dead body in it.
3. When brought in for questioning she told lie after lie that only delayed the police investigation.
4. A strong presence of chloroform was found in the trunk along with Caylee's hair, and IIRC, some evidence of decomposition of a body.
5. Cadaver dogs hit on the trunk of the car.
6. She had stolen checks and credit cards from friends and family and racked up charges of over $25,000.
7. During her child's disappearance she was out partying and having fun and didn't seem in the least concerned about her daughters whereabouts.
For me? 'Nuff said.
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 14 2008, 08:25 PM)
She's screwed body or no body found. If you were on a jury and were told this about the defendant:
For me? 'Nuff said.
For me? 'Nuff said.
I'm guessing you would not be seated in that jury.
QUOTE (The Dean @ Oct 14 2008, 08:36 PM)
I'm guessing you would not be seated in that jury.
Well you do have to set aside all previous things you've heard about the case while in deliberations. I was on a jury earlier this year. It was a case that I knew nothing about and it was easier since it was not covered in the media.
It was said in the OJ case that the prosecution and defense wouldn't have wanted anyone to serve who hadn't heard about the case. This case is less well known nationally but in that area I'm sure it's very well known and it will be difficult to find anyone who hasn't heard of this case.
So if I was on the jury I would be able to put aside the previous coverage but if that is what I was shown during the trial it wouldn't be hard for anyone to reach a verdict. I think the jury is out less than 8 hours on the deliberations.
Assuming you were given those facts during the case what would be your conclusion Deano?
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 14 2008, 09:15 PM)
Well you do have to set aside all previous things you've heard about the case while in deliberations. I was on a jury earlier this year. It was a case that I knew nothing about and it was easier since it was not covered in the media.
It was said in the OJ case that the prosecution and defense wouldn't have wanted anyone to serve who hadn't heard about the case. This case is less well known nationally but in that area I'm sure it's very well known and it will be difficult to find anyone who hasn't heard of this case.
So if I was on the jury I would be able to put aside the previous coverage but if that is what I was shown during the trial it wouldn't be hard for anyone to reach a verdict. I think the jury is out less than 8 hours on the deliberations.
Assuming you were given those facts during the case what would be your conclusion Deano?
It was said in the OJ case that the prosecution and defense wouldn't have wanted anyone to serve who hadn't heard about the case. This case is less well known nationally but in that area I'm sure it's very well known and it will be difficult to find anyone who hasn't heard of this case.
So if I was on the jury I would be able to put aside the previous coverage but if that is what I was shown during the trial it wouldn't be hard for anyone to reach a verdict. I think the jury is out less than 8 hours on the deliberations.
Assuming you were given those facts during the case what would be your conclusion Deano?
I try really really hard to not make judgments based on media coverage of these things. I also try really really hard to avoid the, nearly always, tabloid-like coverage of events like this on ET (and all the programs like it) and from that worthless subhuman, Nancy Grace, and those of her ilk. I really didn't even read most of this thread. I saw you had a list with "nuff said" at the end of the post...I paid little attention to the list.
As for the facts: I have no idea what the facts are, and nor, I suspect, do the people paying very close attention to the media coverage of the case.
In most cases, it is the police and DA that control the information stream, and many media outlets simply serve as their mouthpieces. In cases where the defendant has a lot of $$, a great lawyer and is media savvy, the defendant can also use the media to advance his/her agenda. So, I consider most of what i hear outside of a courtroom (and some of what is inside it), speculation, PR, half-truths, innuendo and the like.
QUOTE (The Dean @ Oct 14 2008, 09:39 PM)
I try really really hard to not make judgments based on media coverage of these things. I also try really really hard to avoid the, nearly always, tabloid-like coverage of events like this on ET (and all the programs like it) and from that worthless subhuman, Nancy Grace, and those of her ilk. I really didn't even read most of this thread. I saw you had a list with "nuff said" at the end of the post...I paid little attention to the list.
As for the facts: I have no idea what the facts are, and nor, I suspect, do the people paying very close attention to the media coverage of the case.
In most cases, it is the police and DA that control the information stream, and many media outlets simply serve as their mouthpieces. In cases where the defendant has a lot of $$, a great lawyer and is media savvy, the defendant can also use the media to advance his/her agenda. So, I consider most of what i hear outside of a courtroom (and some of what is inside it), speculation, PR, half-truths, innuendo and the like.
As for the facts: I have no idea what the facts are, and nor, I suspect, do the people paying very close attention to the media coverage of the case.
In most cases, it is the police and DA that control the information stream, and many media outlets simply serve as their mouthpieces. In cases where the defendant has a lot of $$, a great lawyer and is media savvy, the defendant can also use the media to advance his/her agenda. So, I consider most of what i hear outside of a courtroom (and some of what is inside it), speculation, PR, half-truths, innuendo and the like.
I'm just saying that assuming those were the facts presented what conclusion would you draw?
QUOTE (Steely Dan @ Oct 14 2008, 10:36 PM)
I'm just saying that assuming those were the facts presented what conclusion would you draw?
I would assume there would be a whole list disputing and/or explaining them. Without that list, I would say nothing.
Wimp. 
Looks like they've found some bones and toys in an area where Casey may have dumped Caylee. They are playing their cards close to the vest and saying they don't think it's Caylee but I wouldn't expect them to say anything else at this point.
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Divers Claim To Find Bones, Toys During Caylee Search
Thursday, November 13, 2008 – updated: 3:27 pm EST November 13, 2008
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Divers searching in the Little Econ River for Caylee Anthony's body claim to have found a bag with bones and toys inside.
Early Thursday afternoon, the dive team confirmed to Eyewitness News that they had located several children's toys inside a plastic bag in the river, including a plastic shamrock toy. The toys were then taken away as evidence, but TV crews were not allowed to view them.
They also claimed to have found three or four bones but didn't identify whether or not they were human bones.
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Divers Claim To Find Bones, Toys During Caylee Search
Thursday, November 13, 2008 – updated: 3:27 pm EST November 13, 2008
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Divers searching in the Little Econ River for Caylee Anthony's body claim to have found a bag with bones and toys inside.
Early Thursday afternoon, the dive team confirmed to Eyewitness News that they had located several children's toys inside a plastic bag in the river, including a plastic shamrock toy. The toys were then taken away as evidence, but TV crews were not allowed to view them.
They also claimed to have found three or four bones but didn't identify whether or not they were human bones.
Casey's parents are still fricking nutjobs.
QUOTE (Bmwolf21 @ Nov 13 2008, 03:56 PM)
Casey's parents are still fricking nutjobs.
Definitely true. Leonard Padilla called them an extremely dysfunctional family. He also believes that while Casey was back at the house during a time she was out of jail that she probably confessed to her parents and now they don't want to lose a daughter in addition to a Granddaughter. He points to a time that overnight their attitude about the search dramatically changed and they started pushing the she's still alive thing a lot harder.
Tot Mom!
Glad our crime rate is going down so much that just Caylee Tot of the Mom Anthony is the only toddler tot to have been rubbed out in the past year in this country.
Glad our crime rate is going down so much that just Caylee Tot of the Mom Anthony is the only toddler tot to have been rubbed out in the past year in this country.
QUOTE (Chalkie Gerzowski @ Nov 13 2008, 04:11 PM)
Tot Mom!
Glad our crime rate is going down so much that just Caylee Tot of the Mom Anthony is the only toddler tot to have been rubbed out in the past year in this country.
Glad our crime rate is going down so much that just Caylee Tot of the Mom Anthony is the only toddler tot to have been rubbed out in the past year in this country.
The reason this is receiving so much news coverage is that it's a fascinating story based on all of Casey's lies and her not calling anyone for over a month and her very strange family. It's a lot more interesting than most other missing kids cases. Anyway, during her shows Nancy Grace has carried more than this story and covered other missing children too.
the grandparents are about as bat**** crazy as the mother.
QUOTE (Chalkie Gerzowski @ Nov 13 2008, 04:44 PM)
the grandparents are about as bat**** crazy as the mother.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Her brother refused to take a polygraph and one witness claims to have seen Casey going in or coming out, I forget, of the woods with a man. I think he helped her dispose of the body.
I don't believe this was on purpose. I think she accidentally overdosed her on chloroform.
I haven't been following this, but as usually happens a story will pop up and you get the basics of it. They'll find the family guilty, the mother in any event. I think the looney grandmother may be an accomplice somewhere in this.
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