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We are sending troops back to Iraq for their third and forth tours, enlistments are down, the army is taking in criminals, grandmothers and halfwits, and the pampered Ann Coulter are doing what?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070310/ap_on_...Ekvdos_F0ys0NUE

At Fort Drum, N.Y., the 1st Brigade of the 10th Mountain Division is already training for a return to Iraq this summer. The brigade, which spent a year in Iraq and got home last summer, is not yet on any official list of units scheduled to deploy, but it's likely to go in late summer.

"It's prudent planning for us to be prepared to go back in a year," said Fort Drum spokesman Ben Abel.

Military officials also acknowledge that units scheduled to come home later this summer — such as the 3rd Brigade, 25th Infantry Division — could be forced to extend their tours by up to 120 days to maintain the Baghdad security buildup.




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sounds like the army recruiter has been beating down your door

God, youre a !@#$ing idiot.......

"the pampered Ann Coulter are doing what?"

You mean like hollywood millionares who preach to us how we should cut down on energy use while they take private jets, limos, and live in 20,000 square foot homes?

Or Greek billionaires or ultra-rich senators who say people should be taxed more while they put all of their money in offshore accounts so it isn't taxed?

yeah i get it

You are changing the subject. I get what you mean, but someone living large while preaching conservation is not on the same level as these College Republicans screaming we are in a war as important as world war two, yet not putting their asses on the line. Their very actions say that the war isn't important, yet they want to send over more troops, as long as they are not part of the troops. F-kn chickenhawks

Right, and your post was so laser like in its focused target.
When you toss the net so wide to include College Republicans, Iraq war, grandmothers, and Ann Coulter , expect some diverse responses.

Chicken Hawks?

I just love the Michael Moore school of though that says "if you don't enlist you can't support the War on Terror"

So if I am not policeman or fireman in my city I can't support what they do?

How about putting this way, if the Islamic- terrorist threat is :

1. made up
2. over-stated
3. just a result of US imperialism and policy..

why don't you prove us wrong and open and try to organize a march for gay athesists in Tehran or Damascus, or pull a "Black like Me" and go try to live in the Sudan as a black christian or jew.

We will see what happens.

The army is short on finding good recruits and these guys are screaming their heads off that the war in Iraq and the war on terror are the same as World War Two. They should enlist if they believe that. They are not doing that.

That Tehran isn't going to allow a Log Cabin Republican parade, complete with Foley, Gannon and Haggerd leading the way, proves nothing about "War on Terrorism." Are you saying the US military has to bomb the world into freedom?

Since when does the army take recruits over 40 years old?

The War on Terror and other world events are similar to the world in 1938., in number of ways.

If you can't see a connecting between what is happening inside Iran and their race to build a bomb, their proxy armies in Hamas and Hezbollah, the assassination of anti-Syrian politicians in Jordan, the slaughter and rapes carried out by Islamic Militias in Sudan and Somalia, bombing in Thiland and India, the bombing plots in Canada, Denmark, Germany, France, etc..

If you can't see a connection to all this and more, maybe you should change your log in name to Neville Chamberlain.

College Republicans are not over 40. And this is nothing like 1938.

I just sent the following e-mail to the national College Republican's HQ:

I was scanning your website and one of the topics was about the Democrats as the "party of defeat." Now forgive me for asking, but with the military short of recruits and taking in old women, spcial education students, people who can't graduate from high school and criminals, why in the name of God are you guys still in college? Your country needs you in the army. It seem hypocritical to me that you preach war but won't go fight yourselves. Are you not helping in defeat by not doing anything?


Jim

Hey Jimmy...if youre too !@#$ign stupid to understand the concept of VOLUNTEER ARMY, then youre beyond help.

I guess you fall into the spcial education category. You're an idiot and a moron.

gah, molson makes me ashamed to be a liberal with r-tardness

You have a stronger case going after the college Republicans than you do going after Ann Coulter. And you're right to say that this isn't 1938. We don't have to worry about being overrun by a hostile foreign army. If today's America is in danger, it's due to internal weakness, and not the strength of external threats.

Specifically, because of stupid people having babies and bad Mexican drivers...

JSP didn't start this thread, so why are you spamming it?

9/11/2001 ????

September 11 is largely a result of internal weakness. If we'd set out to have an immigration policy that's more favorable to this country, we wouldn't be absorbing the Third World's population surplus. And the terrorists who committed September 11 would never have been allowed to immigrate to America. September 11 would never have happened.

The most logical response to September 11 would have been to secure the Southern border, and to reform American immigration policy (esp. with respect to the Middle East). Also, we should have expelled those who were here illegally.

However, the security risk apparently wasn't high enough to cause us to take any of these measures. But apparently, the danger level was high enough to justify sending American soldiers off to fight and die. And it's a tragedy whenever a standing government considers the death of its own soldiers a smaller price to pay than the enforcement of existing immigration law. Our government's priorities are no longer aligned with our national interests. And that's another sign of internal weakness.

I've been making the point that is in this thread for years now. College Republicans remind me of that kid that always backed the neighborhood bully Scut Farkus from a Chistmas Story. They can talk the sh-- and throw insults when they have something big and powerful to hide behind. Then when its time to go toe to toe, its time to run home, mommy's making mac and cheese tonight.

NYState College Republicans have a Fox News logo at the bottom of their home page.

http://www.nycollegerepublicans.com/Page1.htm

Grover Dill

Thanks!

Then thats the name that will stick with college republicans in my book. The best part was Ralphie knocked Grover over with the side of one hand, it was kind of a girlie push that knocked him down.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=07geXDHjpYU

How dare those kids have an opinion.

Especially one that isnt lockstep with the rest of the liberal progressives on campus.

What you should be asking yourselves is this.....how many on campus follow YOUR way of thinking solely to get laid or not be outcast? These kids KNOW they are outside the mainstream, but speak up with their POV, depsite the barbs thrown their way by the progressive, liberal establishment so prevalent on college campuses.

You call them "toadies", to use your "Christmas Story" metaphor? Most would call them something else....

Brave.

The biggest myth going -- there are very few William F. Buckleys on college campus's -that much is true.-- but virtually nobody is
in lockstep.

Oh please.

Universities are HOTBEDS of liberal, progressive thinking.

Been to many faculty Senate meetings?

It is the lockstep part I would object to, these people can't agree on anything.

When I was in college, I saw precisely one William F. Buckley on campus. And it was, in fact, William F. Buckley. And he was only there for a day.

But protesting him was great fun for that day. I don't know what it is about protesting conservative pundits that makes liberal college co-eds so horny, but man was that ever a great way to score some trim...

My first year in Texas I had a friend whose girlfriend was going to school for social work. And on the day I met her super-liberal, social work friends, my strategy was to steer the conversation to how much I hated conservatives.

"You know who would hate it if we hooked up? Donald Rumsfeld. Probably John Ashcroft too. I'm just sayin'.....lose the bra."

Free Mumia! Free Tookie! Free Mammary! Free them all!

Exactly.......

Maybe "lockstep" was the wrong word. But you get my drift.

I agree with the original poster.......if you feel this war was necessary and integral to the defense of our country.....you should be in uniform........too many 101st Fighting Keyboardists' and Yellow Elephants

Bush daughters should have already been in uniform serving and sacrificing

BTW: I'm a veteran who proudly served in Panama and the 1st Gulf War

I gotta tell you, I think this could be one of the most insulting things i have read in a very long time.

I am a College Republican when it comes to foreign policy, what do you make of it? Are you saying I don't love my country? Are you calling me a pussy?

I'm going to let you in on a little secret Mr. Lennon. What a lot of your liberal journals are not telling you, is that the draft is no longer used, and these boys who are over there signed up to go over there. All the guys that I know who are over there, want to be over there because they are fighting for your future, as well as mine. I don't think that good friends of mine who are fighting for your way of life would truly appreciate this kind of bull sh-- being posted, slandering them as well as the people that they consider their family.

Seriously Michael Moore, go have a cry with Cindy Sheehan, cause I sure as sh-- do not want to hear any more of this garbage. This ain't Vietnam anymore, hippie, so quit your bitchin' and shut the fcuk up, unless you want to join up?

Nothing quite as entertaining as the righteous rage of undergrads casually associated with the College Republicans. Are you a College Republican or not? I think you were freeing some Keystones late last night, weren't you?

What's wrong with that? I thinki its good we have liberal institutions in the country. Seriously, why does that upset you?

....and stilll too dumb to realize we have this thing called a VOLUNTEER military.

How Rovian of you

Who said it did?

I'll tell you what DOES upset me....the TOTAL FRAUD you and the rest of those yelling "chickenhawk" and demanding that those who support the war MUST MUST MUST "sign up."

You scream about "free speech" and self-flaggelate about your progressive "exchange of ideas" and "tolerance of opinions." But when someone comes to you with a difference of opinion, you want to throw a rider on it and say that in order to express that opinion that person has to commit years of their lives? And in this case, it goes worse...you say that if you express an opinion, the Governemt should come and haul you away to serve them?

Whats next? If someone says they like lamb chops youre gonna demand they !@#$ a sheep?

!@#$ you.

I and the rest of us have the RIGHT to express any opinion we want WITHOUT having to "prove it so." Thats what the First Amendment guarantees.

1) I feel so awful

2) If you think this adventure in Iraq is as important as the College Republicans think it is, you should go and join up, IMO. They want to call Democrats names on their web sites but they won't go and fight. I think that's pathetic.

3) No, the troops over there are not fighting for me. I don't see what they are doing in Iraq as helping me or the United States at all in the long or short term. I think its really funny and sad you think they are fighting for my freedom in Iraq. Pathetic! Shouldn't the College Republicans show there support by joining the troops over there? I mean if our freedom and way of life are at stake, wouldn't they want to? Or is that all bull sh--?

4) I have already done my four years, got the GI Bill and used it to get my degree. But, if America really was in danger, as the College Republicans say, I would join back up.

I never said they "Must" join up, I'm just questioning their integrity in supporting a war that they will not fight in. They vote for, scream for and promote the war, but won't go, that's someone else's risk. Cowards really.

Oh, so one cant have an opinion on something without ACTIVELY getting involved in supporting it?

One cant say "I agree with the tactic that the President has implemented to fight terrorism"?

Thats nonsensical.

I hate illegal immigration. I need to become a border agent or else Im a "coward"?

I hate fur (really, I dont care). I have to join PETA or else Im a "coward"?

I think Cancer is a terrible disease and it has affected my family. I have to donate money to the ACS or else Im a "coward"?

On and on.........

I don't want to touch the "chickenhawk" argument, but what I do think is this, there is a troubling predilection for military intervention/solutions in this country that is in some ways indifferent to the military itself.

The burden of proposed military solutions and international interventions are carried by a minority in this society - soldiers, their families, veterans, etc. that volunteer. When policy decisions are made by those that no longer have serious risk then the inventions get easier.....and Kuwait, Somalia, Kosovo, Iraq start to come in succession. It is in some ways like having a credit card with someone else's name on it. When you use it the first time maybe you have weighed the option of using it very thoughtfully, after all, it doesn't have your name on it, what am I doing here? But once you realize the bill doesn't come to you, it gets easier to use the second time, and still easier the next.

Sure you rationalize, it is for moral reasons, it is for the good of others, it is the right thing to do because this is an exceptional circumstance I'm using this card, but in the end, that credit card still doesn't have your name on it. It has the name of some marine, some soldier, some airman, some sailor, somebody else.

Who doesn't love the person that pays for everything?

Just because I can put this after my name, TMCM (SS/SW) USN Ret., I'm going to volunteer to answer your questions.

1. No, unlike many Repblicans I will never question someone's patriotism just because their political views don't coincide with mine.

2. Why YES! Yes you are a Pussy! If you are a vocal advocate of a war but are unwilling to put your own a$$ on the line for what you suposedly believe in, then you are a PUSSY!

3. Gee, no shidt, the draft is not currently being used... That could change you know... I wonder how many college republicans will head for Canada if it does?

4. How in the holy flying hell does calling out pussies like you, idiots who are vocal supporters of the Iraq War, as long as they aren't the one's fighting it, slander anybody on active duty? Please, Please, explain that to me.

5. I already signed up and did 20+ years of active duty, serving in Vietnam, Beiruit, Panama, Grenada, and the first Gulf War, I more than earned the right to bitch, in fact because of my service and the service of millions of other guys and gals like me, you also have the right to bitch, so go ahead and use the rights that other people earned for you, bitch away...

6. and as for wanting to join up... IT'S YOUR TURN...

I dont care HOW long you served. I really could care less.

Putting ANY kind of rider or requirement on someone to express an opinion completely violates the spirit of the First Amendment.

And Im pretty sure that stating one must serve the Government if one expresses a certain opinion...and in this case, the foreign policy and agenda of said Government IS INDEED a violation of the First Amendment.

Show me where in law or written elsewhere where one must "put their ass on the line", as you say in order to express an opinion.

I dare you.

OMG! Supporting the "fight" against cancer is not the same as going to Iraq and facing roadside bombs. Get a grip dude

TWICE you put words in my mouth....who the !@#$ equated fighting a war with fighting a disease?

What do you do? Post sh-- and then when it comes time for people to answer, proverbially stick your fingers in your ears and go "LALALALALALALALA!!!

Learn to read, ok?

Please find anywhere that I said that you didn't have the right to express your opinion, or anywhere where I said that someone must put their ass on the line in order to have an opinion on this issue.

What I said was: IN MY OPINION, people who are vocal supporters of the war in Iraq, and are of age to serve in said war, who refuse to join the military and fight for the cause that they so loudly espouse, ARE GUTLESS PUSSIES!

And I also said that you have the right to that opinion, as well as the right to bitch and moan about my opinions, because of the millions of people like me WHO DID SERVE AND ARE STILL SERVING.

Fair enough...then I think youre opinion is stupid and completely violates the spirit of the first Amendment. To say one is a pussy becuase they wont go to war?

What about all the folks in other wars who supported in and didnt go?

How do you know many of these so-called "pussies" arent supporting the cause in other ways? Maybe they are donating their time or money in some way.

Maybe they have a medical exemption. Does that make them "pussies" too? Or are they exempt from "pussy" status?

How about the gays? Ya know them.....they technically CANT serve, right? Are all "gays" exempt from "pussy" status? Or is there a "homosexual exemption"?

PLease tell me what qualifies for "pussy" status.

A) Saying you agree with the Bush Doctrine in a class
B) Saying you agree with the Bush Doctrine among friends
C) NOT going to an anti-war rally looking for some trim
D) Ignoring the rack of Che t-shirts in the local 'Head shop


In regards to usage of words, how strongly does one have to say they agree with the Bush Doctrine and not serve to qualify for "pussy status"?

A) Express your opinion thats pro war in a calm voice
B) Express your opinion thats pro war in a slightly raised voice
C) Express your opinion thats pro war while yelling...and shaking your fist.
D) Profess your love for Newt Gingrich

Finally...the age exemption...how old does one have to be to express their opinion thats favorable to the Bush Doctrine, having not served, and be exempt from "pussy" status? Last I checked, the military 'dont' take too many 40 year olds.

I look forward to your reply.

Oh...one more thing....I STILL dont care that you served.

Fair enough, but do you really want to put your ignorance on display that way? How is it possible for my opinion to violate the spirit of the first amendment? Where does it say in the first amendment that RI Bills Fan's opinions must be approved by RkFast?


They are PUSSIES too.


It doesn't matter. If you support the war, and are of age to serve, you have two choices: a) enlist and go to Iraq or b) admit you're a PUSSY!


No exemptions, they're PUSSIES!


Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Enlist and go or be a PUSSY! Gay people have the same rights as straight people in my eyes.


A) Yes
B) Yes
C) No, unless you went looking for an argument and decided to get some trim instead, in which case the answer becomes Yes.
D) No, but you being in the local head shop will be reported to the FBI as required by the Patriot Act.


A) Qualifies
B) Qualifies
C) Qualifies
D) Qualifies, as long as your recruiter doesn't ask and you don't tell.



You could have chosen to serve earlier, avoided this war, and not been a PUSSY! Don't complain to me that you made the wrong choices early in life.



And I still don't care that you don't care, so there!