Ann Coulter calls Edwards a "faggot"; Bill Maher calls for the assassination of Vice President Cheney as a way for reducing deaths.

Simple Google News searches:
"ann coulter" & edwards => over 300 results
"bill maher" & cheney => 27 results

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/huston/070305

So, just like it is a worse offense for Mark Furman to use the "n-word" than it is for hacking off your ex-wife's head; it seems that it is also a worse offense for calling someone a name than it is for calling for the assassination of a sitting vice president.

O rly?


From http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256650,00.html



This whole post is a waste of time.

A: Who gives a flying !@#$?
B: Bill Maher didn't call for the assassination of Cheney.
C: Ann Coulter and Bill Maher are both faggots.
D: Who gives a flying !@#$?

You have every right to be as angry as you can get! This is fu---g horrible! Unacceptale to the furthest degree! Rush is right! No doubt.

Aw come on....it was a.......ready?.....here it comes...

BOTCHED JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I think whats she said was terrible. The GOP is looking to paint itself as the party AOBVE this stuff. Then she goes aqnd throws this out there and sets the whole movement back five steps.

To appease the rest who KNOW Id be all over this story, here is yer "dose of hypocrisy".....

I find it comical, if not pathetic that GLAAD...ya know them....The organization that fights so hard to lash out against bad gay stereotypes, blasts Coulter for her comments and goes on to paint every member of the GOP with the same brush, as a bunch of homophobes.

"Ann Coulter's use of this anti-gay slur is vile and unacceptable," said Neil G. Giuliano, president of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, "and the applause from her audience is an important reminder that Coulter's ugly brand of bigotry is at the root of the discriminatory policies being promoted at this gathering."

And of course, while he almost HAD TO react, considering Edwards is barely getting himself together after what happened with his bloggers, he really should tone down his response a bit.

At the end of the day, it seems both events got about the same response.

And Edwards IS a.......candy-ass.

I like Coulter's respons, though..."You're right, it was uncalled for, I'd like to apologize to gays for comparing them to John Edwards."


Coulter and Maher and the like, all of them need to be as crass as possible, otherwise people will stop paying attention to them. The only reason they're important is because we pretend they are.

Some good about people who say "Yeah, thats right!" when asked if they really MEANT what they said.

Everyone knows what ann coulter is. Bill Mahar, Al Franken, Micheal Moore, same thing. Ann usually doesnt take it QUITE to this extreme, but you know what you are getting.

Almost everyone knows what she said was wrong. But the real point I want to make here is, this is between Ann and Ann. If you have a problem with what Ann says, call for HER to appologize. It amazes me that the same people defending kerry for a "botched joke" are calling on GOP Presidential Candidates to applogize for coulter! Big ups to the guy who gets in front of the camera and says "I disagree with her retoric, but I refuse to applogize for things people not involved in my campaign say or dont say".

The difference between the 2 is that Maher is a comedian, and Coulter is a conservative political commentator.

So was Al Franken. Wait, isn't he going to run for the Senate? A comedian in the Senate, now there's a change.

They are not mutually exclusive categories, and Maher, like Al Franken or Jeanane Garafolo, can very well be considered to be both.

Maher has got a TV show seen by millions. He brings on a who's who of political commentators and pundits week after week. He ability to play the "Im just a single comedian" really doesnt float anymore.

Frankyl I cant WAIT to see his show Friday. First of all, he's close with Coulter. Second, what he calls Bush and anyone to the right of pretty much Ramsey Clark makes Coulter's commentary look tame.

On another note, people on DailyKos are leading the charge to have Coulter silenced. As if THEY are the bastion of rational, civil politcal commentary.

sh--, thats like Mickey D's leading the charge against obesity.

Wrong.

Jeanane Garafolo has never been funny.

which really means Coulter isn't supposed to be funny when she rips Libs and Maher is allowed to be....(or should I say supposed to be.)...when he rips conservatives.

Well...yeah, I was going to stipulate "In as much as Garafolo's ever been funny", but I figured I'd let someone else have some fun...

By discussing Coulter the press is giving her exactly what she wants, more publicity. Every once in awhile she makes some controversial statement to throw red meat to the extremists who buy her books, and gets publicity from those who are offended by her statements. So for her it's a win-win. The best thing Republicans could do is to distance themselves from her.

And this is different from her ilk on the other side of the aisle HOW?

Just this morning in the SAME CONVERSATION, Don Imus was calling Bush a bunch of derogatory names, and then he goes on to blast Coulter for her act.

I mean...do these people even HEAR what they spew???!!!??? To use another analogy, its like a guy doing 110 on the Thruway complaining about the guy who just passed him doing 125.

I forgot E: Who gives a flying !@#$?

I don't know about that, but I suspect that they are !@#$ing.

So you're demanding that the media treat all its favorite freaks equally.
Well done.

This is why John Edwards shouldnt be president for saying that this type of speech "shouldnt be tolerated"


Um...there's this amendment in the constitution that guarantees this type of speech. In fact its so important that they made it the FIRST one.

I love how Ann is bucking the latest trends and is NOT apologetic.

Uhhm, no. Hate speech shouldn't be tolerated by reasonable people. (which is a separate issue from First Amendment protections for free speech)

I disagree. I believe hate speech SHOULD be tolerated by reasonable people, because I believe reasonable people should believe in the First Amendment protection of free speech.

I just don't believe reasonable people should take hate speech seriously...but then, as I always say, the right to be heard does not convey the right to be taken seriously.

I agree that it shouldn't be tolerated by reasonable people. But it certainly should be tolerated by government. The government shouldn't be defining 'hate' speech and creating punishment for offenders of its very arbitrary standards. Which I presume was the original point of the thread.

And how is that different than what I wrote? Is Patrick Fitzgerald knocking on Coulter's door?

I get a kick out of the CPAC's response:

We don't condone hate speech but we trust the sensibilities of our audience. (who may happen to like it )

http://www.conservative.org/pressroom/2007/070305pr.htm

Aren't kids today told the old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but NAMES will never hurt me" ?

Only semantically, because we have different definitions of "tolerance".

I'm just glad Coulter isnt giving some half hearted apology and going to rehab to "make everything all better"


Is rehab the new "re-education centers"?

Probably the one thing I like about Coulter: she'll stand by what she says. Even when it's stupid (as it usually is), she's got enough integrity to own up to it. A far cry from "I voted for it before I voted against it". I'll take a loathsome harpy with backbone over a spineless weasel any day of the week...

She's mastered hate speech with integrity?

Backbone? I just think that she practices the modern art of the medicine show.

Get their attention, make some claims, sell the snake oil.

I don't think for a minute she believes anything she says.

I think she believes about half of it...but don't kid yourself, selling snake oil takes LOTS of backbone.

You know I never thought of it that way, they can't break character and continue their profession, can they?

I was thinking more that it takes a lot of strength of personality and conviction to knowingly sell bull sh--. Ever see a spineless person lie? You can always tell.

Not tolerating it and actually making it illegal are two separate things.

Let him who has not called someone a "faggot" cast the first stone. Or a Faggot of sticks which is the real definition of Faggot.

Some people think that the use of the term derives from the medieval practice of burning sodomites at the stake using bundles of sticks called "faggots". Sounds about right to me.

Actually, I don't think I ever called anyone a "faggot".

And I'm still not going to cast any stones, as Ann Coulter has a First Amendment protected right to act like an idiot.

I'm ready to cast one, and I'm not sure what your point is with the bundle of sticks. That's not what the word means to anyone now, and I'm not sure why you or anyone would be more apologetic about her use of the word than she is (and she isn't).

She's an ugly, ugly person for what she says, and yes, I know there are people on the left like her, and they're just as culpable in this lousy mess that actually passes for political dialogue or statement among some neandearthal segment of the American population. I'm not sure where anyone who says the things she says can claim any sort of moral upper hand or class. She's got none of either in my book. And I have to agree with what XB says -- that she probably believes a good half of it and says the rest to shock.

And she's got the freedom to do all of this, and I have the freedom to think less of her every time she opens her mouth.

Anne Coulter should finally fly to Sweden and get that addadictomy she truly needs.

Not to politicians they aren't.

Way to take the high ground. Your circle jerk has to be in an absolute frenzy.

Crass as it was, independent of applying it to Coulter I have to say I've never heard that term before. I got a chuckle out of it. Guess I should get out more.

Oh for goodness sakes Derwood we're talking about Manne Coulter here. And is if your usual three/four word sardonic reposites add anything to the discussion here.......please!


If the wacky conservative right, the branch that actually controls what stands for the current republican party, invites this insignificant drop of peroxide to speak at their coronation then they deserve every bit of backlash they get. Mainstream conservatives have come out against here and if the Republican party ever expects to get its act together they'd be best advised to dump that adams appled piece of trash and rejoin the human race.

Hello pot, this is kettle. I am proud of you for your use of "sardonic", however. I guess the library group of trained monkeys you hang with finally found the thesaurus.

You mean like inviting Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson and the "Reverend" Al Sharpton to the DNC? Please. The only differences between the two parties is the interests they cater to. Luckily for all of us, the idiocy level of the partisans is remarkably similiar. That at least gives good fodder for "sardonic" humor.

Its like I said earlier in the thread...people dont even realize what comes out of their mouths anymore. All you need to do is see Joey's response. He retorts to Coulters name calling with.....name calling. And worse, he tried his ass off to up the ante and outdo the original "crime" here, use of the word faggot.

Yeah...thats the way to condemn someone...do something WORSE...."I condemn you for punching me. It was an awful thing to do...so In response, Ill shoot you."

Brilliant.

And to the second point and to further illustrate the hypocrisy...Michael Moore, every BIT Coulters equal on the left, was the guest of honor at the 2004 DNC. Not in attendance...the GUEST_OF_HONOR.

Could someone pin a thread for HA, Tom and Ramius?

Fcuking please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So that they can continue to beat each other to death, for fcuking Christ sakes.

Darin?

They weren't even fighting in this thread, you wanker!

I think eryn's trying to make a point. I don't know what it is...but I'm pretty sure he doesn't either.

Since its hard for you to understand how, so many threads, have disintergrated with all the diarrhea mouth. Pretend I'm channelling HA. That might make it easier for you.

Intellectuals, cant understand'em, cant kill'em