That was a bizarre but really overplayed incident. I saw the video and the guy was obnoxious and then he was stupidly and overzealously thrown out by two staffers, one who put him in a headlock and the other who gently bodyslammed him to the ground. The most bizarre element of the entire story, however, would be Webb saying he knew nothing of the incident. That is virtually impossible.
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this is a non-story.
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Yeah, I guess stifling freedom of speech in this country currently is a non-story.....sadly.
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Yeah, I guess stifling freedom of speech in this country currently is a non-story.....sadly.
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Al Franken did the same thing during a Kerry rally a few years ago, going after and punching a heckler.

But that was "different."   
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It's a stretch to say they were stifling his freedom of speech. The guy was allowed to talk, he barged his way in, he came back for more, and then they made him leave when he went too far. Their fault was the force they used getting him out of there, when he really wasn't putting up much of a fight. If the guy Striker, however, presses charges for what they did to him, he is as big or a bigger jerk/assclown than the guys who somewhat roughed him up. It didn't hurt one bit. It wouldn't have hurt a 5 year old. It would be embarrassing to press charges on something like that. And he would be doing it just to make a name for himself, and just to be an ass, not because he suffered or suffered any pain. It's not like a punch was thrown. It was basically a one-second headlock and a dainty tackle.
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It's a stretch to say they were stifling his freedom of speech. The guy was allowed to talk, he barged his way in, he came back for more, and then they made him leave when he went too far. Their fault was the force they used getting him out of there, when he really wasn't putting up much of a fight. If the guy Striker, however, presses charges for what they did to him, he is as big or a bigger jerk/assclown than the guys who somewhat roughed him up. It didn't hurt one bit. It wouldn't have hurt a 5 year old. It would be embarrassing to press charges on something like that. And he would be doing it just to make a name for himself, and just to be an ass, not because he suffered or suffered any pain. It's not like a punch was thrown. It was basically a one-second headlock and a dainty tackle.
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I wouldn't call it a stretch, I'd call it completely wrong.  This guy also bragged on his blog that he was going to go disrupt the speech.  He wanted this to happen and he wanted to be on TV getting kicked out of there.

I wish these retards on both sides would just stop going to speeches they don't like to make a name for themselves.
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Oh I don't doubt this guy (whose blog "calling all wingnuts" I haven't viewed) appears to be some irksome gadfly. He is after all the same guy who pushed Fox News lunatic Bill Orly to sic the dreaded "Fox News Police" on him for mentioning Olbermann's name. But here's where we part ways: I think it was a smart thing for him to press charges and extremely stupid for Allen and his crew to completely overreact to his nettlesome questions.
I mean who do you think is laughing now? Annoying lefty or Allen?
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That's the point. He's not being genuine at all by pressing charges. He's not being honest. The thing he was demanding of Allen was for Allen to come clean and be honest. Do we not see the irony here?
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Since when does anyone care about honesty???
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That's the point. He's not being genuine at all by pressing charges. He's not being honest. The thing he was demanding of Allen was for Allen to come clean and be honest. Do we not see the irony here?
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"overly physical"?!.....please correct me if I'm incorrect but viewing the tape didn't the gray haired attacker nearly put the guy's head thru a plateglass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQJP-FaKY0
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I fail to see the dishonesty. I mean if me or you were attacked by some rightwing politico's henchmen wouldn't you go to the cops?
That's that whole freedom of speech matter.
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The dishonesty is he wasn't hurt. I would imagine the only charge other than denying his rights would be some sort of assault. Frankly, I'd be embarrassed if I was thrown to the ground and pressed charges for assault. They also let him pose his stupid incendiary questions, so if he wants to press charges for them denying him his rights, that is embarrassing, too. And it's dishonest, because they weren't denying him his rights. It was only after him going too far with his questions that they threw him out, and he had given them good reason, IMO, to be thrown out by then. He surely didn't expect an answer to his question, other than "no", so therefore it was all a ruse from the start. Not to mention the fact he planned to disrupt the event. Obnoxious hecklers going overboard is really not what the forefathers wanted to protect.
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Damn......Joey makes blzrul seem like a free thinker.
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Has anyone called you a right-wing apologist in this thread yet? 
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The dishonesty is he wasn't hurt. I would imagine the only charge other than denying his rights would be some sort of assault. Frankly, I'd be embarrassed if I was thrown to the ground and pressed charges for assault. They also let him pose his stupid incendiary questions, so if he wants to press charges for them denying him his rights, that is embarrassing, too. And it's dishonest, because they weren't denying him his rights. It was only after him going too far with his questions that they threw him out, and he had given them good reason, IMO, to be thrown out by then. He surely didn't expect an answer to his question, other than "no", so therefore it was all a ruse from the start. Not to mention the fact he planned to disrupt the event. Obnoxious hecklers going overboard is really not what the forefathers wanted to protect.
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Wow, you must be truly of the belief that nobody get's their hands dirty in political campaigning. That is rare. Fact is both sides do it and it happens every election season. Just ask Jeff Gannon.
Remember the Velvet Revolution when these assclown gop operatives probably should have been tear gassed?: http://www.thegully.com/essays/america/001127miami_dade.html
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Al Franken did the same thing during a Kerry rally a few years ago, going after and punching a heckler.

But that was "different."   
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Care to comment on what took place when a Minutemen representative tried to give a speech at Columbia and Georgetown Universities?

Oh....that was just "dissent." 

5 more days
5 more days

that's what i keep telling myself

only 5 more days of this bullmacaca and it will all be over

5 more days
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Just ask Jeff Gannon.

It was a Dean rally, and Franken didn't punch anyone.

News reports of the incident and statements by the theater manager of the theater where it happened indicate that a heckler elbowed and punched security, the theater manager and elbowed Franken's glasses off his face before Franken took his legs out.

If a heckler is getting physical and assaulting people I don't have a problem with him getting tackled, but if you tackle someone simply because he shouts a question you don't like that's a different story.
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John Kerry both is and is not an idiot!
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We even have some guy who thinks the Bush TANG memos are real.
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I don't know which idiot to make fun of first.
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bull sh--. It was a Dean (I said Kerry...sorry) rally and a Larouche supporter started pelting Kerry with questions. Franken FLEW towards him from a mile away and began to assault him.

http://www.debatebothsides.com/archive/index.php/t-369.html
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This a hole is trying to sti up some trouble for  Allen. He was yelling about Allen's divorce  22 years ago. The  records were sealed by the decision of both of them.  He met his current wife 2 years later (20 years ago).
The a-hole  wsa raising $ for his bail- he expected to get arrested.

The dims must be worried that Allen will win, resorting to crap like this.

JB/PJ, please take your meds.
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He asked Allen why he spit on his ex-wife. A couple of months ago he asked Allen public if he ever called anyone the N-word.  All I know about Mike Stark is that he is an ex-Marine who is now a law student who has a website devoted to calling right wing talk shows to heckle them. 

Most polls appear to have Webb slightly ahead.
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It's a stretch to say they were stifling his freedom of speech. The guy was allowed to talk, he barged his way in, he came back for more, and then they made him leave when he went too far. Their fault was the force they used getting him out of there, when he really wasn't putting up much of a fight. If the guy Striker, however, presses charges for what they did to him, he is as big or a bigger jerk/assclown than the guys who somewhat roughed him up. It didn't hurt one bit. It wouldn't have hurt a 5 year old. It would be embarrassing to press charges on something like that. And he would be doing it just to make a name for himself, and just to be an ass, not because he suffered or suffered any pain. It's not like a punch was thrown. It was basically a one-second headlock and a dainty tackle.
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This a hole is trying to sti up some trouble for  Allen. He was yelling about Allen's divorce  22 years ago. The  records were sealed by the decision of both of them.  He met his current wife 2 years later (20 years ago).
The a-hole  wsa raising $ for his bail- he expected to get arrested.

The dims must be worried that Allen will win, resorting to crap like this.

JB/PJ, please take your meds.
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Say what you will about this lunatic's stunt but it is the final nail in the coffin of The Mighty Macaca Allen's once promising political career. There's no way he comes back from that.
For that we should all be thankful.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjI1M...GE1NzhiM2ZjMDQ=
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I think a lot on the left fail to realize that most Americans hate these whiney protesters who are looking to get arrested and press charges after exactly what they wanted happens.  They are doing more harm than good for the left.  The average American does not relate to these priveleged brats who have nothing better to do with their time than to disrupt any speech they don't agree with.  Obnoxious people like this idiot protester are generally disliked by most people.
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No way he comes back from what you just described as a "lunatic's stunt"?

Was it just some stunt by a lunatic or something that will actually affect the campaign?  Make up your mind.
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Because no one on the right ever does this sort of thing, right?
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Obviously it's both....doink!
The guy planned out what he was going to do, told his cohorts it was something that was going to affect the campaign, did it and it seems to have affected the campaign.
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You are actually going to argue the fact that the majority of disruptive protests are left wing?  Even you can't be that dellusional.
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Why?  Because you say so? 

I think most people with more than three working brain cells are smart enough to disregard anything that happens when some lunatic crashes a campaign event.  Obviously.
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I don't know who does the majority of disruptive protests - I haven't seen anything on the topic except for anecdotal evidence.

What I do know is that I have seen it happen on both sides of the political isle, whether or not you'd like to believe that.
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I stand corrected, you could be that dellusional!
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Not because I said so but because the story was NATIONAL NEWS that can't help Allen one bit given his fiasco of a campaign to start with.
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