Full Version: Big trade predictions
Anybody got any?
QUOTE(RuntheDamnBall @ Jun 14 2006, 09:39 AM)
Anybody got any?
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Yankees NO doubt will get an OF to help with Sheff/Matsui out. Maybe a Ken Griffey or Brian Giles type.
With Clemens returning, maybe Houston tries to add 1 more bat and make a last run at another WS.?
Oakland, IF Harden returns to form might trade Zito (Yankees are his 1st choice) maybe a 3-team deal for prospects. Cant see them letting Zito walk after this year with nothing in return!
If Detroit is hanging around maybe they add another arm?? Just my 2Cents!!!!
QUOTE(Buffan00 @ Jun 14 2006, 10:08 AM)
Yankees NO doubt will get an OF to help with Sheff/Matsui out. Maybe a Ken Griffey or Brian Giles type.
With Clemens returning, maybe Houston tries to add 1 more bat and make a last run at another WS.?
Oakland, IF Harden returns to form might trade Zito (Yankees are his 1st choice) maybe a 3-team deal for prospects. Cant see them letting Zito walk after this year with nothing in return!
If Detroit is hanging around maybe they add another arm?? Just my 2Cents!!!!
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With Clemens returning, maybe Houston tries to add 1 more bat and make a last run at another WS.?
Oakland, IF Harden returns to form might trade Zito (Yankees are his 1st choice) maybe a 3-team deal for prospects. Cant see them letting Zito walk after this year with nothing in return!
If Detroit is hanging around maybe they add another arm?? Just my 2Cents!!!!
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Interesting. I think Zito is going to end up in a Yanks uniform one way or the other. They might as well get something out of it. You know George is going to add a bat and another starter. With the Reds in the race, though, I don't think I see Junior heading to the city, a place he's said he doesn't want to go to.
I'd put the Tigers and the Jays in the category of looking for a little more relief, and perhaps a solid vet 4-5 starter. That is, unless the Jays can get Brandon League (guy throws gas, hits 100) to make it up for the second half.
A lot of relief is going to move this year, IMO. It's just becoming too important.
The Mets have been quietly making a lot of moves. I think they're going to pay dividends later in the season. But they definitely should not be entertaining any deals for Milledge to get ahead in the short term. That's the kind of guy you build around. They should have learned from dealing Kazmir, I think.
Wonder if the Cards will look for any more offense or just bank on Pujols' return being enough (and soon enough). Where's our resident Cards expert?
QUOTE(RuntheDamnBall @ Jun 14 2006, 10:19 AM)
Interesting. I think Zito is going to end up in a Yanks uniform one way or the other. They might as well get something out of it. You know George is going to add a bat and another starter. With the Reds in the race, though, I don't think I see Junior heading to the city, a place he's said he doesn't want to go to.
I'd put the Tigers and the Jays in the category of looking for a little more relief, and perhaps a solid vet 4-5 starter. That is, unless the Jays can get Brandon League (guy throws gas, hits 100) to make it up for the second half.
A lot of relief is going to move this year, IMO. It's just becoming too important.
The Mets have been quietly making a lot of moves. I think they're going to pay dividends later in the season. But they definitely should not be entertaining any deals for Milledge to get ahead in the short term. That's the kind of guy you build around. They should have learned from dealing Kazmir, I think.
Wonder if the Cards will look for any more offense or just bank on Pujols' return being enough (and soon enough). Where's our resident Cards expert?
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I'd put the Tigers and the Jays in the category of looking for a little more relief, and perhaps a solid vet 4-5 starter. That is, unless the Jays can get Brandon League (guy throws gas, hits 100) to make it up for the second half.
A lot of relief is going to move this year, IMO. It's just becoming too important.
The Mets have been quietly making a lot of moves. I think they're going to pay dividends later in the season. But they definitely should not be entertaining any deals for Milledge to get ahead in the short term. That's the kind of guy you build around. They should have learned from dealing Kazmir, I think.
Wonder if the Cards will look for any more offense or just bank on Pujols' return being enough (and soon enough). Where's our resident Cards expert?
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Im not sold on the Reds just yet! Dont think Harang and Arroyo are the real deal (See last night's box score) And they will revert to their sell the farm ways!
Here in DC, it's felt that Sorriano (having a monster year), Guillen and possibly Vidro, are goners.
Fans would love to keep Fonzie around, but he doesn't want to stay here. He wants to test the market next year, and may be asking for $12-15 mil.
In Baltimore...well, let's just say they have a couple of pitchers they're looking to keep, but virtually anyone else, Miggy included, could be on the block.
Fans would love to keep Fonzie around, but he doesn't want to stay here. He wants to test the market next year, and may be asking for $12-15 mil.
In Baltimore...well, let's just say they have a couple of pitchers they're looking to keep, but virtually anyone else, Miggy included, could be on the block.
QUOTE(Ned Flanders @ Jun 14 2006, 10:44 AM)
Here in DC, it's felt that Sorriano (having a monster year), Guillen and possibly Vidro, are goners.
Fans would love to keep Fonzie around, but he doesn't want to stay here. He wants to test the market next year, and may be asking for $12-15 mil.
In Baltimore...well, let's just say they have a couple of pitchers they're looking to keep, but virtually anyone else, Miggy included, could be on the block.
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Fans would love to keep Fonzie around, but he doesn't want to stay here. He wants to test the market next year, and may be asking for $12-15 mil.
In Baltimore...well, let's just say they have a couple of pitchers they're looking to keep, but virtually anyone else, Miggy included, could be on the block.
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I'd say Soriano is as good as gone, but to whom is the real question. Mets would have to give up a pretty penny to keep him in the East.
QUOTE(Buffan00 @ Jun 14 2006, 10:34 AM)
Im not sold on the Reds just yet! Dont think Harang and Arroyo are the real deal (See last night's box score) And they will revert to their sell the farm ways!
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If they don't get off the schnide soon they probably will. But they've got some good ballplayers. Brandon Phillips is having an excellent season.
QUOTE(RuntheDamnBall @ Jun 14 2006, 11:19 AM)
The Mets have been quietly making a lot of moves. I think they're going to pay dividends later in the season. But they definitely should not be entertaining any deals for Milledge to get ahead in the short term. That's the kind of guy you build around. They should have learned from dealing Kazmir, I think.
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If the Mets even consider trading Milledge I will travel to Shea and start myself on fire in protest, like one of those monks. Milledge is God, but better.
QUOTE(RuntheDamnBall @ Jun 14 2006, 09:19 AM)
Interesting. I think Zito is going to end up in a Yanks uniform one way or the other. They might as well get something out of it. You know George is going to add a bat and another starter. With the Reds in the race, though, I don't think I see Junior heading to the city, a place he's said he doesn't want to go to.
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Isn't Griffey a 10/5 guy (10 years in the league, 5 years with the same team)? And therefore couldn't he reject any trade?
I don't know if the Angels will do anything tradewise - seems unlikely given that their GM has made like 4 trades in his 7 years, and one was trading Jim Edmonds for three magic beans. But if they do make a trade, I already know for a fact that it will be terrible.
QUOTE(SilverNRed @ Jun 14 2006, 12:59 PM)
Isn't Griffey a 10/5 guy (10 years in the league, 5 years with the same team)? And therefore couldn't he reject any trade?
I don't know if the Angels will do anything tradewise - seems unlikely given that their GM has made like 4 trades in his 7 years, and one was trading Jim Edmonds for three magic beans. But if they do make a trade, I already know for a fact that it will be terrible.
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I don't know if the Angels will do anything tradewise - seems unlikely given that their GM has made like 4 trades in his 7 years, and one was trading Jim Edmonds for three magic beans. But if they do make a trade, I already know for a fact that it will be terrible.
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I was actually cringing hearing about Hillenbrand for Kennedy and Jeff Weaver a few weeks ago. That actually might have been a pretty good trade for your boys.
the rumor that I keep hearing in these parts is that if the Reds stay within striking distance, they'll be making a move for Dontrell Willis
QUOTE(udonkey @ Jun 15 2006, 01:19 PM)
the rumor that I keep hearing in these parts is that if the Reds stay within striking distance, they'll be making a move for Dontrell Willis
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Willis seems to be in rumors with a lot of teams -- thing is, that drives up the asking price. Whatever team gets Willis will be giving up a LOT in return -- esp since Willis is under contract through 2007.
I really can't believe the crazy asking prices teams have. I read today that the Angels wanted Vernon Wells for Ervin Santana. Insanity.
QUOTE(RuntheDamnBall @ Jun 15 2006, 12:49 PM)
Willis seems to be in rumors with a lot of teams -- thing is, that drives up the asking price. Whatever team gets Willis will be giving up a LOT in return -- esp since Willis is under contract through 2007.
I really can't believe the crazy asking prices teams have. I read today that the Angels wanted Vernon Wells for Ervin Santana. Insanity.
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I really can't believe the crazy asking prices teams have. I read today that the Angels wanted Vernon Wells for Ervin Santana. Insanity.
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That's the first Angels rumor I've heard that I liked. The red hot rumor right now is Carl Crawford for Ervin Santana. CC is great but how can you deal a pitcher who is doing great (ERA around 4.00) in his first full year and who pitched really well in the playoffs last season? It's always easier to get a bat than an arm.
I do want the Angels to trade Adam Kennedy to the Jays to help them win this year. The Angels are going nowhere fast so it's time to turn the team over to all the (supposed) blue chip prospects we have in AAA and AA.
Our rookies and second year players are the only reason the team is even close to .500 this year.
(Angel fans are definitely channeling Yankees fans lately. The message boards there are full of people wondering why we can't trade for Grady Sizemore, Vernon Wells, or Carlos Beltran. Ummm, maybe because those teams have ZERO interest in trading those guys?
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QUOTE(RuntheDamnBall @ Jun 14 2006, 12:10 PM)
I was actually cringing hearing about Hillenbrand for Kennedy and Jeff Weaver a few weeks ago. That actually might have been a pretty good trade for your boys.
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I really like Shea Hillebrand and that would have been a trade that favored the Angels but Hillebrand is a FA after this year anyway and only takes ABs away from the younger guys this year, when we should just be focused on rebuilding.
I wish the Jays had signed Jarrod Washburn instead of A.J. Burnett. Not only because the team would be better right now, but also because you'd have even more of the 2002 Anaheim Angels roster on board (to go along with Glaus, Molina, and Schoeneweis).
QUOTE(SilverNRed @ Jun 15 2006, 02:44 PM)
I really like Shea Hillebrand and that would have been a trade that favored the Angels but Hillebrand is a FA after this year anyway and only takes ABs away from the younger guys this year, when we should just be focused on rebuilding.
I wish the Jays had signed Jarrod Washburn instead of A.J. Burnett. Not only because the team would be better right now, but also because you'd have even more of the 2002 Anaheim Angels roster on board (to go along with Glaus, Molina, and Schoeneweis).
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I wish the Jays had signed Jarrod Washburn instead of A.J. Burnett. Not only because the team would be better right now, but also because you'd have even more of the 2002 Anaheim Angels roster on board (to go along with Glaus, Molina, and Schoeneweis).
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Yeah. The tough thing is that Hillenbrand and Lilly, two that could be dangled in trade, have both run their mouths off about places they'd like to be next year (Boston and SF, respectively). It kind of cripples trade value. Sort of the same thing as with Zito. Why pay a ton for a guy you are dead certain won't be staying with you -- unless you're equally certain he's going to take you to the top.
I still think the Burnett signing will turn out to be a good one. Another trip to the DL might have me less sure about that one, though.
I think the Angels are not sure about what kind of team they want to be and that's hurting them. I agree that they should hold onto Santana (and it's crazy to think any team would trade a cornerstone like Wells, even for him).
QUOTE(Buffan00 @ Jun 14 2006, 11:08 AM)
Yankees NO doubt will get an OF to help with Sheff/Matsui out. Maybe a Ken Griffey or Brian Giles type.
With Clemens returning, maybe Houston tries to add 1 more bat and make a last run at another WS.?
Oakland, IF Harden returns to form might trade Zito (Yankees are his 1st choice) maybe a 3-team deal for prospects. Cant see them letting Zito walk after this year with nothing in return!
If Detroit is hanging around maybe they add another arm?? Just my 2Cents!!!!
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With Clemens returning, maybe Houston tries to add 1 more bat and make a last run at another WS.?
Oakland, IF Harden returns to form might trade Zito (Yankees are his 1st choice) maybe a 3-team deal for prospects. Cant see them letting Zito walk after this year with nothing in return!
If Detroit is hanging around maybe they add another arm?? Just my 2Cents!!!!
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Zito would come to the Mets before than Yanks.
A person whom I work with daughter is best friend's with Rick Peterson's (Mets pitching coach) son. Peterson and Zito are like father and son.
QUOTE(IBTG81 @ Jun 16 2006, 05:50 AM)
Zito would come to the Mets before than Yanks.
A person whom I work with daughter is best friend's with Rick Peterson's (Mets pitching coach) son. Peterson and Zito are like father and son.
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A person whom I work with daughter is best friend's with Rick Peterson's (Mets pitching coach) son. Peterson and Zito are like father and son.
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It'll likely be a bidding war and whoever ponies up will win - regardless of intangibles.
QUOTE(Alaska Darin @ Jun 16 2006, 12:17 PM)
It'll likely be a bidding war and whoever ponies up will win - regardless of intangibles.
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If the Angels wanted Zito, they could probably sign him. They have the money and Zito is a SoCal kind of guy.
Unfortunately, barring a horrible trade, the rotation for next season is set and that means we're jamming Bartolo Colon's fat, broken physique onto the mound for another season and a half.
QUOTE(Alaska Darin @ Jun 16 2006, 02:17 PM)
It'll likely be a bidding war and whoever ponies up will win - regardless of intangibles.
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Well, I think he'll either go to the Angels, Mets, or Yanks.
I have a good feeling about the Mets.
QUOTE(IBTG81 @ Jun 16 2006, 09:50 AM)
Zito would come to the Mets before than Yanks.
A person whom I work with daughter is best friend's with Rick Peterson's (Mets pitching coach) son. Peterson and Zito are like father and son.
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A person whom I work with daughter is best friend's with Rick Peterson's (Mets pitching coach) son. Peterson and Zito are like father and son.
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My A's wont deal zito unless they are sure harden will be back to 100% before too long. They'd need Zito come playoff-time. We may even re-sign him, with the new owner willing to actually shell out a few bucks.
For a trade, the mets could have had zito last year for milledge and heilman. The A's will definitely want another arm for zito, as well as a young bat. If zito goes to the mets, they'd better be ready to give up heilman, because beane loves him. I'm not sure the yanks have the ammo to get zito atraight -up, so a third team would probably be involved in the trade.
The A's may also move jay payton and boby kielty.
QUOTE(Ramius @ Jun 19 2006, 03:19 PM)
My A's wont deal zito unless they are sure harden will be back to 100% before too long. They'd need Zito come playoff-time. We may even re-sign him, with the new owner willing to actually shell out a few bucks.
For a trade, the mets could have had zito last year for milledge and heilman. The A's will definitely want another arm for zito, as well as a young bat. If zito goes to the mets, they'd better be ready to give up heilman, because beane loves him. I'm not sure the yanks have the ammo to get zito atraight -up, so a third team would probably be involved in the trade.
The A's may also move jay payton and boby kielty.
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For a trade, the mets could have had zito last year for milledge and heilman. The A's will definitely want another arm for zito, as well as a young bat. If zito goes to the mets, they'd better be ready to give up heilman, because beane loves him. I'm not sure the yanks have the ammo to get zito atraight -up, so a third team would probably be involved in the trade.
The A's may also move jay payton and boby kielty.
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I heard that Beane now asked for Heilman, Milledge, and Pelfrey.
Is he on crack?
I think the one team that could unload some of it's high paying salaries could be the Chicago Cubs. Don't expect Derrick Lee to be traded as he's the only one who seems untouchable.
QUOTE(BB2004 @ Jun 20 2006, 09:42 AM)
I think the one team that could unload some of its high paying salaries could be the Chicago Cubs. Don't expect Derrick Lee to be traded as he's the only one who seems untouchable.
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They are expected to move Maddux to a contender if he wishes. Wood and Prior are going to be a lot harder to move due to their injury histories. Perhaps someone will take a flyer on them.
Don't know about any of their position players.
Pirates will probably Trade Jason Bay for a pack of seeds and some Big League Chew
QUOTE(taterhill @ Jun 20 2006, 04:49 PM)
Pirates will probably Trade Jason Bay for a pack of seeds and some Big League Chew
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I think that Big League Chew could be just the thing Pittsburgh needs to put them over the top.
Johnny Kruk seems to think the young Joel Zumaya from Detriot is a fair trade for John Smoltz.
I say hell no.
I would do it for Justin Verlander though....
I say hell no.
I would do it for Justin Verlander though....
QUOTE(gantrules @ Jun 21 2006, 09:54 AM)
Johnny Kruk seems to think the young Joel Zumaya from Detriot is a fair trade for John Smoltz.
I say hell no.
I would do it for Justin Verlander though....
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I say hell no.
I would do it for Justin Verlander though....
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That would be really weird if Smoltzy ends up going back to Detroit for another young gun. To me it'd make the Braves winners in a Smoltz deal twice. The Tigs would be crazy to unload either of those guys, IMO. They're both future stars, if not current ones. I think Rogers provides enough vet leadership for that staff and they've got the foundation for some great years as long as Leyland protects those arms.
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