I hope to God this is true! Pakistan tends to put out BS. Wow this would be huge! I will crack some champagne if true!
Rot in hell you POS!
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
Full Version: We might of killed Zawahiri!
I know this belongs on the other board but it is too good of news. Heres hoping this claim is true. Rot in hell you SOB! I have the Champagne on ice!
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/13/...rike/index.html
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/13/...rike/index.html
The best part is:
"Villagers described seeing an UNMANNED plane circling the area for the last few days and then bombs falling in the early morning darkness. "
No troops were at risk in this operation.
Al-Queda has just begun to see the military technology they are going to see. Unmanned bombers are the beginning.
"Villagers described seeing an UNMANNED plane circling the area for the last few days and then bombs falling in the early morning darkness. "
No troops were at risk in this operation.
Al-Queda has just begun to see the military technology they are going to see. Unmanned bombers are the beginning.
i hope this is true
rot in hell and may your 72 virgins all look like Rosie O'Donnell
Now the BBC(a legitimate news source) is picking up on the story-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4608784.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4608784.stm
Marv just crossed him off the Coaching list..
QUOTE(Mark VI @ Jan 13 2006, 08:05 PM)
Marv just crossed him off the Coaching list..
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Son of a gun! You beat me to it!
QUOTE(Mark VI @ Jan 13 2006, 08:05 PM)
Marv just crossed him off the Coaching list..
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What do you mean?--If deceased, he could be the perfect fit...he's definitely adept at avoiding the blitz..4 and a half years is pretty good..
"Of" is not a verb.
QUOTE(Pete @ Jan 13 2006, 07:48 PM)
I know this belongs on the other board but it is too good of news. Heres hoping this claim is true. Rot in hell you SOB! I have the Champagne on ice!
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/13/...rike/index.html
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http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/13/...rike/index.html
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wow... who knew he was such a Mularkey fan?
QUOTE(SDS @ Jan 13 2006, 08:58 PM)
wow... who knew he was such a Mularkey fan?
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Life just wasn't worth living. Took the sails right out of his wind...
QUOTE(Alexander Hamilton @ Jan 13 2006, 09:44 PM)
"Of" is not a verb.
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"killed" is
Praise Allah!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(Astrobot @ Jan 13 2006, 07:51 PM)
The best part is:
"Villagers described seeing an UNMANNED plane circling the area for the last few days and then bombs falling in the early morning darkness. "
No troops were at risk in this operation.
Al-Queda has just begun to see the military technology they are going to see. Unmanned bombers are the beginning.
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"Villagers described seeing an UNMANNED plane circling the area for the last few days and then bombs falling in the early morning darkness. "
No troops were at risk in this operation.
Al-Queda has just begun to see the military technology they are going to see. Unmanned bombers are the beginning.
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If an unmanned drone was flying around for a few days, I would presume that Zawahiri knew that he should have left dodge. I would be very surprised if he were still around.
Regardless, I really hope that we got him. It is long overdue.
Isn't this about the 12th time we have nailed the number 2 guy?
QUOTE(jarthur31 @ Jan 13 2006, 09:53 PM)
Praise Allah!!!!!!!!!!
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Allahu Akbar!
QUOTE(CoachChuckDickerson @ Jan 13 2006, 10:08 PM)
Isn't this about the 12th time we have nailed the number 2 guy?
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Actually, we keep on getting the number 3 over and over and over again.
This would be the first time for number 2 (unless you count number 2 in Austin Powers).
You know media outlets are reporting that Al-Queda leadership is in shambles... Probably the worst they've seen in a terrorist organization in ten years. Al-Queda supports are sure no one with any terrorist experience will be willing to step into the newly opened spot. Bin Laden will have a press conference in the morning.
QUOTE(John in VA Beach @ Jan 13 2006, 10:16 PM)
You know media outlets are reporting that Al-Queda leadership is in shambles... Probably the worst they've seen in a terrorist organization in ten years. Al-Queda supports are sure no one with any terrorist experience will be willing to step into the newly opened spot. Bin Laden will have a press conference in the morning.
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John Clayton really gets around.
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It'll be his fourth press conference in a week. Truly a damning sign.
I'm betting it was either Chuck Norris or the Podium that killed him.... 
Lets hope he combs his hair and changes turbins this time.
I noticed the last press conference that Bin Laden's ears were getting bigger...he came off a little "old time comedy", dare I say vaudevillianesque..
I don' t think it really matters any more. Al Queda is an institution now and currently, there really is no effective leadership. Kill all the leaders. Kill the top 50 leaders, top 100, top 1000. The organization and the philosophy will survive.
Zawahirgheii???
What???
Have you ever hear of someone by the name of Osama Bin Laden????????????????
How soon you forget.
(On that note... ever heard of a thing called Weapons of Mass Destruction??)
Big f'ing deal.
What???
Have you ever hear of someone by the name of Osama Bin Laden????????????????
How soon you forget.
(On that note... ever heard of a thing called Weapons of Mass Destruction??)
Big f'ing deal.
QUOTE(Bad Things @ Jan 14 2006, 12:11 AM)
Zawahirgheii???
What???
Have you ever hear of someone by the name of Osama Bin Laden????????????????
How soon you forget.
(On that note... ever heard of a thing called Weapons of Mass Destruction??)
Big f'ing deal.
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What???
Have you ever hear of someone by the name of Osama Bin Laden????????????????
How soon you forget.
(On that note... ever heard of a thing called Weapons of Mass Destruction??)
Big f'ing deal.
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Zawahiri is the brains behind al quaeda and much more important then bin laden. go back to reading pravda comrade
QUOTE(Pete @ Jan 13 2006, 07:48 PM)
I know this belongs on the other board but it is too good of news. Heres hoping this claim is true. Rot in hell you SOB! I have the Champagne on ice!
http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/13/...rike/index.html
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http://www.abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1504096
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/13/...rike/index.html
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good news if true, but i'll wait for proof. this exact same story ran 2 years ago and proved to be incorrect.
QUOTE(Pete @ Jan 13 2006, 11:12 PM)
Zawahiri is the brains behind al quaeda and much more important then bin laden. go back to reading pravda comrade
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no one is more important than bin laden. zawahiri is their top technician. he's replaceable. the spirit of it all, which is what bin laden is so effective at representing, is irreplaceable.
One can only hope. May allah give him his 70 virgins, and mey they all be hare-lipped.
QUOTE(dave mcbride @ Jan 14 2006, 12:16 AM)
no one is more important than bin laden. zawahiri is their top technician. he's replaceable. the spirit of it all, which is what bin laden is so effective at representing, is irreplaceable.
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My brother in law is a West Point grad and Army Ranger. His best buddy is a counter terrorism expert that teaches at West Point. The guy has many books out and I have spoken to him at length about terrorism. Bin Laden is a figure head-Zawahiri is the brains. Seems like we havent heard from Osama in a while. Zawahiri has been the mouth piece for al quaeda the past year. I hope to God this is true. I will tell you something else- Al-Zarqawi would be a much bigger catch for the USA logistically then Osama.
QUOTE(Pete @ Jan 13 2006, 11:25 PM)
My brother in law is a West Point grad and Army Ranger. His best buddy is a counter terrorism expert that teaches at West Point. The guy has many books out and I have spoken to him at length about terrorism. Bin Laden is a figure head-Zawahiri is the brains. Seems like we havent heard from Osama in a while. Zawahiri has been the mouth piece for al quaeda the past year. I hope to God this is true. I will tell you something else- Al-Zarqawi would be a much bigger catch for the USA logistically the Osama.
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no offense, but the american military has been wrong more often than not all along about this stuff (read "assassins gate" by george packer for evidence on this). zawahiri was a struggling jihadist for 15 years after the assassination of sadat, but islamic jihad never achieved anything more than regional marginality. in 95-96, he had the brilliant idea (and he is indeed quite smart) to hitch himself to bin laden's star. bin laden is a world historical figure, on the order of lenin, khomeini, ho chi minh, and havel. zawahiri is a beria, a hess, a zhou en lai-- the guy that everyone claims is smarter but has no capacity to inspire the masses. bin laden, regardless of his reprehensible ideology, has that capability.
QUOTE(dave mcbride @ Jan 13 2006, 10:32 PM)
no offense, but the american military has been wrong more often than not all along about this stuff (read "assassins gate" by george packer for evidence on this). zawahiri was a struggling jihadist for 15 years after the assassination of sadat, but islamic jihad never achieved anything more than regional marginality. in 95-96, he had the brilliant idea (and he is indeed quite smart) to hitch himself to bin laden's star. bin laden is a world historical figure, on the order of lenin, khomeini, ho chi minh, and havel. zawahiri is a beria, a hess, a zhou en lai-- the guy that everyone claims is smarter but has no capacity to inspire the masses. bin laden, regardless of his reprehensible ideology, has that capability.
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Al Qaeda hasn't provided any proof that OBL is alive in over a year. For such a great figurehead, he sure keeps a low profile.
QUOTE(dave mcbride @ Jan 14 2006, 12:32 AM)
no offense, but the american military has been wrong more often than not all along about this stuff (read "assassins gate" by george packer for evidence on this). zawahiri was a struggling jihadist for 15 years after the assassination of sadat, but islamic jihad never achieved anything more than regional marginality. in 95-96, he had the brilliant idea (and he is indeed quite smart) to hitch himself to bin laden's star. bin laden is a world historical figure, on the order of lenin, khomeini, ho chi minh, and havel. zawahiri is a beria, a hess, a zhou en lai-- the guy that everyone claims is smarter but has no capacity to inspire the masses. bin laden, regardless of his reprehensible ideology, has that capability.
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No doubt Bin Laden is a charismatic figure to fundamentalists but Zawahiri is still a huge blow to al quaeda. I havent read Assassins Gate but I have read Bodansky, Bergen and Janes.
http://www.janes.com/security/internationa...11003_1_n.shtml
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While Bin Laden has the charisma and the funds that built the Al-Qaeda (The Base) network of Islamic fundamentalists, mainly from the men who followed him during the fighting against the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 1980s, al-Zawahiri is widely seen by counterterrorism and Islamic specialists as the intellect and ideological driving force behind the organisation.
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According to Vincent Cannistraro, former top CIA counterterrorist official, "Zawahiri is the guy-he's the operational commander...number one, on the right hand side of Osama."
QUOTE(Pete @ Jan 13 2006, 11:43 PM)
No doubt Bin Laden is a charismatic figure to fundamentalists but Zawahiri is still a huge blow to al quaeda. I havent read Assassins Gate but I have read Bodansky, Bergen and Janes.
http://www.janes.com/security/internationa...11003_1_n.shtml
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As your quote states, Zawahiri is at the right hand of bin Laden -- not the other way around.
When Bush said "dead or alive," he was not talking about Zawahiri.
No doubt, it would be great to get Zawahiri, but we better get bin Laden as well.
QUOTE(Peter @ Jan 14 2006, 12:51 AM)
As your quote states, Zawahiri is at the right hand of bin Laden -- not the other way around.
When Bush said "dead or alive," he was not talking about Zawahiri.
No doubt, it would be great to get Zawahiri, but we better get bin Laden as well.
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When Bush said "dead or alive," he was not talking about Zawahiri.
No doubt, it would be great to get Zawahiri, but we better get bin Laden as well.
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Bush is a moron. If our CIA said "dead or alive" It would of included Zawahiri and Shiek Muhomad. Read the Janes article-
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"Al-Zawahiri’s experience is much wider than even Bin Laden’s," according to Dia’a Rashwan, a leading expert on Islamic militants in Egypt. "His name has come up in virtually every case involving Muslim groups since the 1970s. He’s the chief ideologue in the Bin Laden group. Both he and Bin Laden have combat experience, but it’s Ayman who has the intellectual edge."
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Al-Zawahiri seems to have had vastly more experience in clandestine operations than Bin Laden.
Go for the hat trick - post it again in the Bills Backers or Weight Loss Forum.
Don't forget to mention champagne!
Don't forget to mention champagne!
QUOTE(Peter @ Jan 13 2006, 11:51 PM)
As your quote states, Zawahiri is at the right hand of bin Laden -- not the other way around.
When Bush said "dead or alive," he was not talking about Zawahiri.
No doubt, it would be great to get Zawahiri, but we better get bin Laden as well.
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When Bush said "dead or alive," he was not talking about Zawahiri.
No doubt, it would be great to get Zawahiri, but we better get bin Laden as well.
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"Getting" bin Laden is counter-productive at this point. You either kill him and make him a martyr to inspire a thousand other gomers. Or you capture him and put him on trial...and make him a martyr to inspire a thousand other gomers. Or you keep him running from cave to cave in the Hindu Kush and NWFP, and he's marginalized.
Or best yet, you capture him, kill him, leave his body to rot in a cave in the Hindu Kush, and the whole story never sees the light of day. Never happen...they'll shout it from the rooftops, of course. But the world is better off never hearing of it.
QUOTE(Crap Throwing Monkey @ Jan 14 2006, 12:51 AM)
"Getting" bin Laden is counter-productive at this point. You either kill him and make him a martyr to inspire a thousand other gomers. Or you capture him and put him on trial...and make him a martyr to inspire a thousand other gomers. Or you keep him running from cave to cave in the Hindu Kush and NWFP, and he's marginalized.
Or best yet, you capture him, kill him, leave his body to rot in a cave in the Hindu Kush, and the whole story never sees the light of day. Never happen...they'll shout it from the rooftops, of course. But the world is better off never hearing of it.
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Or best yet, you capture him, kill him, leave his body to rot in a cave in the Hindu Kush, and the whole story never sees the light of day. Never happen...they'll shout it from the rooftops, of course. But the world is better off never hearing of it.
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My use of the word "getting" was of the mortal kind.
I am not sure that I disagree with you. I did see a "terrorism expert" on television the other day, however, who suggested that capturing him would actually be the most effective given that it would humiliate him and his cause in the eyes of the arab world.
In any event, bin Laden and al Qaeda were the ones behind 9/11. It has been almost 4 and 1/2 years since 9/11. The longer it takes to "get" him and Zawahiri, the more empty our rhetoric is about fighting the war on terrorism and our credibility diminishes in the process.
Both of these guys deserve to be "gotten" regardless of how anyone may want to define it.
QUOTE(Peter @ Jan 14 2006, 01:01 AM)
Both of these guys deserve to be "gotten" regardless of how anyone may want to define it.
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My definition, should anyone care, would be both of them hanged from the top of the Statue of Liberty.
QUOTE(/dev/null @ Jan 13 2006, 08:57 PM)
i hope this is true
rot in hell and may your 72 virgins all look like Rosie O'Donnell
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....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
There are unconfirmed reports that bin Laden died last month in Iran. Not that it matters, al Qaeda is going to be around for a long time.
QUOTE(Astrobot @ Jan 13 2006, 07:51 PM)
The best part is:
"Villagers described seeing an UNMANNED plane circling the area for the last few days and then bombs falling in the early morning darkness. "
No troops were at risk in this operation.
Al-Queda has just begun to see the military technology they are going to see. Unmanned bombers are the beginning.
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"Villagers described seeing an UNMANNED plane circling the area for the last few days and then bombs falling in the early morning darkness. "
No troops were at risk in this operation.
Al-Queda has just begun to see the military technology they are going to see. Unmanned bombers are the beginning.
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I heard these guys are roaming the scene looking for left overs:
http://aliens.humlak.cz/aliens/Aliens_papi...ics/robocop.jpg
QUOTE(Buford T. Justice @ Jan 14 2006, 08:37 AM)
Details, details. The important thing is who reported the false story FIRST!
By the way, have they identified the tens of thousands of dead bodies in New Orleans yet?
" Pakistan said on Saturday it was summoning the United States ambassador to protest against an air strike that killed civilians in a village where U.S. intelligence officials suspected Al-Qaida's deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri was visiting.
An AP reporter who visited the scene about 12 hours after what villagers said was an airstrike saw three destroyed houses, hundreds of yards apart.
Villagers, who denied any links to the Taliban or al-Qaida militants, had buried at least 15 people, including women and children, and were digging for more bodies in the rubble. There were no security forces in the area."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/670174.html
USA! USA!
Way to go, robot!
An AP reporter who visited the scene about 12 hours after what villagers said was an airstrike saw three destroyed houses, hundreds of yards apart.
Villagers, who denied any links to the Taliban or al-Qaida militants, had buried at least 15 people, including women and children, and were digging for more bodies in the rubble. There were no security forces in the area."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/670174.html
USA! USA!
Way to go, robot!
Pleawse move thgis thread to PPP where it belongs.
PTR
PTR
QUOTE(crazyDingo @ Jan 14 2006, 02:15 PM)
" Pakistan said on Saturday it was summoning the United States ambassador to protest against an air strike that killed civilians in a village where U.S. intelligence officials suspected Al-Qaida's deputy leader Ayman al-Zawahri was visiting.
An AP reporter who visited the scene about 12 hours after what villagers said was an airstrike saw three destroyed houses, hundreds of yards apart.
Villagers, who denied any links to the Taliban or al-Qaida militants, had buried at least 15 people, including women and children, and were digging for more bodies in the rubble. There were no security forces in the area."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/670174.html
USA! USA!
Way to go, robot!
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An AP reporter who visited the scene about 12 hours after what villagers said was an airstrike saw three destroyed houses, hundreds of yards apart.
Villagers, who denied any links to the Taliban or al-Qaida militants, had buried at least 15 people, including women and children, and were digging for more bodies in the rubble. There were no security forces in the area."
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/670174.html
USA! USA!
Way to go, robot!
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Yeah!! way to cheer the death of 15 innocent civilians woot.
QUOTE(KD in CT @ Jan 14 2006, 09:04 AM)
Details, details. The important thing is who reported the false story FIRST!
By the way, have they identified the tens of thousands of dead bodies in New Orleans yet?
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By the way, have they identified the tens of thousands of dead bodies in New Orleans yet?
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Coming from someone who was down here, praticipated in SAR and is still down here you may want to take a look at the number of people that are listed as stil missing: over 6400.
Before you say "they're just scattered everywhere" that's crap because nearly everyone has registered for some type of assistance whether it be FEMA, Red Cross, etc.
And if you would've been down here to see level of devastation you would've made the same prediction the former Chief of Police did.
Also, I'm not saying that there 6,400 bodies to be found. I'm saying that the 1000+ bodie count here isn't accurate.
QUOTE(/dev/null @ Jan 13 2006, 07:57 PM)
i hope this is true
rot in hell and may your 72 virgins all look like Rosie O'Donnell
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Screw that. I hope he's greeted by 72 VIRGINIANS not virgins.
Now THAT would be a funny religious miscommunication.
QUOTE(BravinSeattle @ Jan 14 2006, 02:29 PM)
Screw that. I hope he's greeted by 72 VIRGINIANS not virgins.
Now THAT would be a funny religious miscommunication.
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Now THAT would be a funny religious miscommunication.
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Keep your gawddamned hayands offa me! Hell boy! I ain't no dayamn virgin!
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