Someone told me yesterday, that one of the tortures that Saddam and other terrorists used was melting plastic, pouring it on people, letting it harden, then pulling it off.

I can't even fathom that- its just so terrible to think of the internal and external- and probably permanent injuries that would cost. It made me nauseous to hear about that, and it still does- hopefully something like that will be done to them
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How about burning tires around the neck?  How many US corporations (and governments) ignored that for years because doing business with S. Africa was provident.

All torture is abhorrent. And much of it probably starts small, and escalates.
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I think the worst form of torture I've heard of was having some woman strip in front of a man until he got a hard on.  Then guards shoved a glass tube up his urethra and beat his penis so the glass would shatter into millions of little chards that were ground into his flesh for life.  Had to have people hold him every time he had to take a piss.

I can't remember if that was done in the Soviet Union, some Eastern European country during the cold war of Nazi Germany.
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? For all their faults, I'm not sure that the apartheid South African government ever used that procedure. If I remember rightly, it was usually done by ANC supporters to people suspected of "collaboration". Winnie Mandela was involved in one such incident I believe.
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I think the worst form of torture I've heard of was having some woman strip in front of a man until he got a hard on.  Then guards shoved a glass tube up his urethra and beat his penis so the glass would shatter into millions of little chards that were ground into his flesh for life.  Had to have people hold him every time he had to take a piss.

I can't remember if that was done in the Soviet Union, some Eastern European country during the cold war of Nazi Germany.
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I think the worst form of torture I've heard of was having some woman strip in front of a man until he got a hard on.  Then guards shoved a glass tube up his urethra and beat his penis so the glass would shatter into millions of little chards that were ground into his flesh for life.  Had to have people hold him every time he had to take a piss.

I can't remember if that was done in the Soviet Union, some Eastern European country during the cold war of Nazi Germany.
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I think the worst form of torture I've heard of was having some woman strip in front of a man until he got a hard on.  Then guards shoved a glass tube up his urethra and beat his penis so the glass would shatter into millions of little chards that were ground into his flesh for life.  Had to have people hold him every time he had to take a piss.
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I think the worst form of torture I've heard of was having some woman strip in front of a man until he got a hard on.  Then guards shoved a glass tube up his urethra and beat his penis so the glass would shatter into millions of little chards that were ground into his flesh for life.  Had to have people hold him every time he had to take a piss.

I can't remember if that was done in the Soviet Union, some Eastern European country during the cold war of Nazi Germany.
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I think the worst form of torture I've heard of was having some woman strip in front of a man until he got a hard on.  Then guards shoved a glass tube up his urethra and beat his penis so the glass would shatter into millions of little chards that were ground into his flesh for life.  Had to have people hold him every time he had to take a piss.

I can't remember if that was done in the Soviet Union, some Eastern European country during the cold war of Nazi Germany.
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I think the worst form of torture I've heard of was having some woman strip in front of a man until he got a hard on.  Then guards shoved a glass tube up his urethra and beat his penis so the glass would shatter into millions of little chards that were ground into his flesh for life.  Had to have people hold him every time he had to take a piss.

I can't remember if that was done in the Soviet Union, some Eastern European country during the cold war of Nazi Germany.
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(All right, all right, if it was naked Mandy Moore, it would probably work but there's no way Mandy would do that to someone.  She's too perfect and nice.)
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shoot...thats nothing....you should see what happens to men when they are made to parade around in their underwear.   
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You accurately point out why the Abu Ghraib incident made me so proud to be an American. [right][snapback]557017[/snapback][/right]

Thanks for that entry into the low expectations sweepstakes.  You accurately point out why the Abu Ghraib incident made me so proud to be an American.  From now on, all our aid shipments to other nations should be stamped with our new motto:

"America, we aren't as bad as Saddam"
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Mandy Moore look-alike? Looks like Mandy Moore, but has the evil sluttier side?
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Her evil twin from another dimension.   She has a goatee, that's how you can tell she is evil.
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But you have a sense of humor, because David Letterman abused Bill O'Reilly. 
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What is this obsession you have with Bill O'Reilly and David Lettermen?  What in the world does that have to do with minimizing the Abu Ghraib mess and what it cost us in terms of our credibility among the very people whose "hearts and minds" we are trying to win?  If I laugh at Lettermen calling Bill O'Reilly's schtick "60% crap", does that mean I also have to find stripping detainees naked and slapping their balls funny as well or risk being seen as a hypocrite?  The military's own reports and subsequent courts martial found that real abuse, assaults and the like have occurred.  You'll just have to pardon me if I don't see Abu Ghraib as either America's finest hour or as funny as Lettermen calling one of the countless screeching pundits out there, a load of crap.
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i read the sarcasm....having said that...i have read some of your posts.  i don't think there is anything that makes you proud to be an American.
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far be it from me to speak for someone else...but i think what he was saying is, you can see the humor and sarcasm in what Letterman said, but you can't see the sarcasm in my post. 

don't get your panties in such a knot.
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Try a smiley face next time rather than the ADesque  .
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What is this obsession you have with Bill O'Reilly and David Lettermen?  What in the world does that have to do with minimizing the Abu Ghraib mess and what it cost us in terms of our credibility among the very people whose "hearts and minds" we are trying to win?  If I laugh at Lettermen calling Bill O'Reilly's schtick "60% crap", does that mean I also have to find stripping detainees naked and slapping their balls funny as well or risk being seen as a hypocrite?  The military's own reports and subsequent courts martial found that real abuse, assaults and the like have occurred.  You'll just have to pardon me if I don't see Abu Ghraib as either America's finest hour or as funny as Lettermen calling one of the countless screeching pundits out there, a load of crap.
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