Blow it out your a$$, gantrules (and you too, Darin).

Seriously.....Of course I like this deal. But Im not all too crazy about the fantasy-baseball style aquisition of hired guns like this. And God knows the Mets have gone hog-wild in November before. And how many times has that worked out for them?

Exactly................................

Shaping up to be a killer team on paper, though.

Sorry dude, didn't see your thread, I deleted mine.

4 y 43 mil?

Good lordy, ticket prices are gonna be astronomical.

Here's a link...

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5117698

I love it! More rea$$$$$$$on$$$$$$$$ for Met$$$$ fans to $hut their traps about the Yankee$$$ $penidng $$!!!

Nah, they can rationalize it when THEIR team does it. (Whaa! Our team needs free agent players! Whaaa!)

May the Mets not win their division yet AGAIN.

Meanwhile, Steindummy draws up plans to sign Mike Piazza. Because....you know....the Yankees really NEED a righthanded DH.

And Da...considering your "captain" spends the first week after every early playoff exit holed up in his Long Beach apartment sobbing like a baby, Id tone down the "whining" talk if I were you.

Oh by the way. Mets payroll right now is at approx $92 Million.

Whats the Yankees?

I guess we cannot get Met$ fans to understand...not even worth the argument.

Just remember, when a small market fan talks and whines about teams spending $$$$, just remember, bitter Met$ fans, you are now right there with teh Yank$ and Red $ox, no more posing as a small market fan. Those days are over. Period.

Understand that the Yanks payroll is double the Mets? What do you want to be understood?




Bitter? Bitter like your endless obsession with the Mets?

See, Yankee fans are so self conscious that they can't even handle it when another team gets the headlines in the winter!

I have no idea what the hell youre talking about, considering its known and acknowledged with all Mets fans I know that we are up there in terms of payroll spending and we have NEVER considered the Mets "small market."

But all that aside, your payroll is still more than DOUBLE ours. So please spare the "youre up there with us, so shut up" tripe.

When people talk about teams overspending for big names, the Met$ are right there in the equation now. I love it. I hope they get more guy$. Yes the yankee$ payroll is double the Met$, but I never want to hear another Met$ fan act as if they are the little guys, which they seem to like to do when the moves they make dont work out.

I'll buy that the Mets are in a fortunate position with, heretofore, inferior management. But come on, Clements, the Yanks were sporting former all-stars at every postion except 2B last year -- where they instead had an excellent prospect break out. I'm not saying that that's not attributed in part to ingenuity, but they can afford basically anybody, including their young stars. That's not a luxury every team has.

Generally, when a team is spending freely like mine seems to be, it's a big risk and it will set the tone for the team for years to come when it's successful or not. The Yanks can misfire and just keep reloading. It's a great position to be in and any Yanks fan should be happy about it, while at the same time understanding that not every team has the same combination of history, location, media coverage and media power to rely on.

Very timely thought, considering the Mets have overspent for players since 1972 and the aquisition of a certain former Giant.

Of if you want to get into recent history, since they acquired a former Pirate outfielder in 1991.

But hey....if the Wagner signing gives you some kind of half-assed, twisted justifcation for your team's mistakes and free-spending ways, have at it.

Ahh, Bobby Bo. What a disaster that was. He was no Mo Vaughn though. (Don't take aim, I like the Mets!)

Remember the last time the Mutts made the playoffs? Yeah, didn't think so. It's so humorous to watch you try and dog Jeter. Almost BF-ish.

If Derek Jeter was on any other team, he'd be Neifi Perez. I mean those 19 Hrs and 75 RBI he gets every year are downright fearsome!!!!!! And for only $19 Million this year! And to say Beltran is overpaid!!!!! sh--, David Wright is already ten times the player pretty-boy is.

The Mets are looking like a team that wants to compete. However, what about their starting pitchers? Pedro is outstanding but are there any others who will step up? If they do, this team will compete with the Braves in the NL East.

Remember when Beltran won his third World Series?

David Wright?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And I thought your PPP takes were ridiculous. Typical Mutts fan.

Do you really want to put Jetrs and wrights ###s next to each other?

Of course you dont.

Because that wouldwreck your boy-love fantasy for Jeter.

And MY takes are ridiculous??? Coming from a man whose politics are closer to that of a militia hidden in Wyoming than to anything else, Ill take that stupid comment as a complement.

Yeah...I may be a typical "mutts fan" becuase Im psyched over my club. But youre a typical Spankme fan by refusing to acknowledge that any club besides yours can be any good.

Remember when Giambi won that World Series? Remember when A-rod won the series as well? Remember that time A-rod was unstoppable in ANY sort of clutch situation?

Didnt think so...

It would be nice to have another big starter, but most of the starters did very well last year. Glavine is a question mark due to his age, but he was solid last year so if he holds up they will be in good shape. Traschel was hurt almost all year and Seo pitched very well. That leaves Benson or Zambrono as the #5, which I can live with.

Although now I've read that Benson might be traded to the O's for Jorge Julio. I'll certainly miss the pics of Benson's wife in the Post.

I dont know crapola about Julio. But trading a #3 starter for a reliever just sounds wrong.

Yep, statistics are the only measure of anything. Which means Jeter's Rings and playoff appearances trump, uh, well, anything ANY Met has done in the last 20 years.

Yep, that's lucid. If you can't win an argument, make the other guy into something everyone will fear. You'd make a great Democrat.


You can chirp with some backbone when you win a division title.



I guess that disproves the whole "acknowledge than any club besides the Yankees can be any good" thing. I prefer to not give credit to teams for adding free agents until they play a couple months of baseball - especially since YOUR team regularly adds players that don't perform to expectation. This would be easily understood if you had the ability to cognitively reason without your typical defensiveness.

Now whine some more about how Tom picks on you.

What's the point of this argument? I didn't want either of these players when the Yankees signed them and I've been the most critical person on this board about Alex Rodriguez and how amazingly overrated he is.

Who is Tom? Oh, you mean "Crap Throwing Monkey". Isnt that the guy I had a "discussion" with a few weeks ago and when I was done with him, he could barely get out "yeah, whatever"? Talk about BF-like!

This all started because I playfully said "ha-ha" to you over a good move the Mets made and youre calling ME defensive? Then you childishly fly off the handle, flame me and bring the business of another forum to this one and then even allude to things you and I have discussed in private conversations.

Thats pretty much the most reprehensible behavior one can exhibit on an Internet discussion board. How you got to be a moderator with an attitude like that is beyond me. You should be ashamed of yourself. I may indeed be defensive and I surely cannot swoop though those political conversations like you and your little coffee clutch like to do, circle-jerking over each other. But what youve shown here is that no matter how "smart" you claim to be, youre really just pathetic.

So first it was the big bad "monkey" and now Ive exposed you. Is there ANYTHING more fun that exposing the self-proclaimed forum elite for the sociopathic frauds they are?

One more thing...did you REALLLY think I was seriously going to compare a ten year All-Pro with four rings to a first year player, no matter how good that first year player's stats are??!!?? How do you say? HOOK...LALALALA-LINE....and SINKER!!!!! Hey Da...Got a nickel?...Ive got a bridge to sell you!! BWAAAAHHHHAAAAHHAAA!!!

I have no idea what thread you're talking about but if your take on that one is similiar to your take on this one (or most of your takes period)...


Which basically means I'm in YOUR head. Too funny.

I've "flown off the handle"? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are absolutely abhorrant at reading people. As far as the "private conversations" thing goes, you've whined openly within the forum a number of times, which is what I was referring to - but don't let that knock you off your high horse.

Your take on the "move" is pretty much the same one you've made over and over again about anything the Mets do. Maybe this time it'll actually work out so you won't look like Fireman Ed at the Jets game. Just maybe. What's it been, 15 years since your last division title? Note my concern.


You ought to try being honest with yourself on occasion.


Discussing moderating policy in the open forum?

Poor Rk. No one agrees with him so now he's going to hold his breath and pretend EVERYONE ELSE is pathetic. I apologize to your fragile self esteem that more people don't find you interesting or your opinions of significant merit. Maybe you should move to Fraggle Rock. Gobo needs lovin'.


You da man, baby. Pretty soon they're going to make a rice paper statue out of your best bowel movements for your epic contribution to messageboarddom.


Backpeddle. Backpeddle. Backpeddle. Do I think a normal person capable of cognizant thought would seriously make such a comparison ? Nope. Now try and do THAT math problem. While you're carrying the zero, understand that this is actually FUN for me.

As usual...nothing but assumptions and projection. Let me clear this up for you...I LOOKED UP AND COMPARED Jeter vs. Wright before I made the comparison here. I noted his high BA, annual amount of hits and other good stats. But made the comparison here on purpose just to !@#$ with your dumb ass. And you fell for it!

Again...there is nothing sweeter than bring out the worst in people who pride themsevles on being above it all.

Youre exposed, Darin. Deal with it. You AND that dumb monkey would do everyone, and most-important yourselves, a lot of good if you just admitted you put your pants on one leg at a time, just like everyone else.

I fell for what exactly? Feel free to explain, in detail, what it is that you think you've proven here.

Uh, OK. Enjoy your one man circle jerk because somehow you think you've actually accomplished something. You planning on going "full BF" with recipes and high school accomplishments too?

I'll try.

Visit someone who can help you get over whatever your parents did to you. Seriously. You attach an awful lot of frustration to two people on a message board who you've never met - to the point of starting threads with the hope that you can get some attention and then declaring yourself the victor in a game that's being played out only in YOUR head.

Good luck.

How the hell did I get dragged into this?

Oh...it's because you're still a moron.

Ok, none of you are invited to the next Mets thread.

Sure glad this wasn't about the Cardinals.

And the true colors of the Bitter Mets fan already show.

David Wright is one HELL of a ballplayer, but 10 times better then Jeter??!?!!

You should read the thread, dude. I was kidding about that.

For now.

Lets compare both careers when they are both concluded. IMO, this will shape up like the Seaver/Ford comparison when all is said and done.