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Great job, "moderates." Another job.......not well done and basically not done at all.

Guess they didn't want to break up Congress' Dimaggio-like streak of getting absolutely nothing done.

The moderates are killing this country...Killing it.

Figures. The one thing republicans want to do that I agree with, drilling in ANWR, and they aren't going to do it.

There's still moderates in this country? I thought the radical wings of the parties drove them to extinction...

"Moderate" is almost a compliment these days. I don't think the bed-wetters in the Republican party deserve any compliments.

But on the bright side, maybe this will force everyone in this country to stop resorting to oil as our first energy solution and start getting serious about alternative sources (wind, solar, organic, nuclear fission, research into nuclear fusion, etc...).

How does that popular TBD analogy go? "Something or other" is like rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic? Well, drilling for oil in Alaska is also like rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic (the Titanic, in this analogy, representing gas prices). The rising oil demand from India and China ALONE are going to make oil simply unaffordable in the coming years, no matter what we pump out in Alaska. The sooner we unanimously realize that, the better off our American economy and American lifestyles will be in the future.

Oil drilling in countries with no environmental/human rights rules and then transporting it across the most delicate ecosystem on the planet = Good

Oil drilling in the country with the most stringent environmental rules in the most desolate place on the planet = Bush

ANWAR drilling is the admins highest energy priority????

Is there some kind of guarantee that any oil gotten from ANWR will have to be used in the U.S.? If not, it's not a solution to our impending energy crisis; it simply gives companies the right to drill there and then sell it to Japan, etc. like we do now.

I can see the points both sides make. I lean more toward the side where any production we will see isn't going to be for 10+ years. If alternative energies aren't fairly widely commercially available by then, then we really are pitiful and we'll deserve whatever happens (b/c much of the holdup will have been backroom politics).

AD, it's desolate b/c it's supposed to be desolate. That's what a (p)reserve is.

Let me know when you've been there or actually have a clue what you're talking about.

Drilling in ANWR isn't just about oil. It's also about countless trillions of tons of natural gas. The "pristine" garbage is just that. ANWR is lifeless 10 months of the year. There are a ton of rules in place to protect the environment (including no building of roads until the temperature reaches -20 F. The caribou herd in Prudhoe has thrived ever since they began drilling, a fact the greenies always gloss over.

ANWR is the size of South Carolina. The drilling base would be about the size of an average US airport. I'd be a hell of alot more pissed off about Elk Hills, but for some reason the media doesn't talk too much about that - probably because the Democrats got it opened up.

Just curious...but is that "no building roads" until it's warmer than -20F, or colder?

No, bet selling that concept does sell papers, doesnt it

-20F or colder. The roads are made of ice.

Yes. The merely conservative are now called moderates.

Not from where I stand .

So basically we went through all that sh--, stress, arguiing, contemplating and everything else with ANWR and it wound up going nowhere.

I [heart] the government.

Nope. People are still pretty much as moderate as ever.

Its the parties that are making them radical that are driving the idea to extinction.

You sound suprised

Good.

Drilling the ANWR to shave a few dimes off the price of gas short-term is stupid. Storing the oil for when we really need it...say, when oil actually becomes difficult to get, not just a little pricey...is a better idea. And where better to store it than in the ground, undrilled? Tapping ANWR is premature.

Hmm, a plan that makes sense. Lets take a look at the Democratic and Republican responses to this plan:

Democartic: But... but... if we save it for later then we're just going to hurt the Environment more when we finally drill.

Republican: But now we can drill it and make those damn oil prices go down. I'll be damned if the price of my cookies goes up.

That's why I'll never hold an elected office.

Well, that, and I'm an ass hole.

Since when has the US had the "most stringent environmental rules"?

You have no clue. Seriously. It's absolutely amazing the rules the oil companies and their support entities live under in Alaska.

At the risk of sounding like the monkey, Alaska is not a country. Alaska may or may not have very strict rules regarding oil companies (I don't know) but that still doesn't mean that the US as a whole has "the most stringent environmental rules".

MAYBE not. Id bet the U.S. is in the top five, however.

Spoken like someone who doesn't live here or work in the industry. Thanks for the "insight."

The rules in Alaska are patterned after the rules in other developing states and virtually everything has stringent federal oversight - but I'm sure you have a clue because you know so much about the subject.

The Top 5 oil producing countries on the planet are Saudi Arabia, the U.S., Russia, Iran, and Venezuela. Gee, I wonder which of these would have the most stringent environmental rules AND actually some semblence of enforcement?

Strange, I don't actually recall saying that I had any "insight" nor did I claim to "know so much about the subject". It seems that under the new rules of the PPP board, you are forbidden from making any comment whatsoever unless you have expert knowledge of the subject.

How about at least some? Or do you have so little control of your "Anti-US" emotion that you just can't help yourself?

Who peed in your Wheaties?????? Go back and read his post and see where he said anything that would warrant the response you had.

Uh, who gave you the golden twinkie of judgement for today? When I need your opinion on message board subtleties, I'll let you know.

Typical AD response. The PPP board is littered with them. Perhaps we need more stringent environmental regulations.

Not capitalizing the name is a grave sign of disrespect to the Golden Twinkie of Judgement, even if you are the 12-point Arial of original thought.

If nothing else, I am consistant.

You looking to be a moderator? I can send over the short bus to pick you up. Bring your helmet.

Golden twinkie of judgment?

Stating that Alaska is not the entire USA is "anti-US"? Wierd.